The Pope didn't even say anything incorrect at all in the video. He didn't explicitly say the boy's dad went to heaven, just said that God smiles upon the dad's act of baptizing his children. What, was the Pope supposed to tell the kid that his baptism didn't count and God looks down at him with scorn like some kind of illegitimate child?
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What, was the Pope supposed to tell the kid that his baptism didn't count
If you don't baptize the kid with holy water from the Champagne region of Heaven, you don't get embraced with God's True Love. You just get sparkling salvation.
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yes. sins of the father and all
I mean, if we're supposed to take religion seriously as anything other than the purposefully explicit backdrop of bigoted fascism, then yes words should mean things.
your father is NOT in heaven, grieving child
Jesus probably wants you to bully the kid who's dad died if you really think about it
"Christ's vicar on earth is wrong!" is one of my favorite American catholic takes.
Like bruh. bruv. bro. Stop and think about what you just said.
Imagine being Catholic and hating the Pope, hilarious
That's just called being protestant
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Being angry at the pope for not responding to the kid "Another kkkrakkka Down" 
Dogmatic ritualized gibberish clearly states that my fantasy of your dead father involves him being boiled in a big pot for eternity, and if you can't tell a dead man's kids that you're not doing them any favors.
"No Timmy your dad is burning in hell because he didn't follow the bible" I say as a devout and pious Catholic.
It's not fucking heresy ffs this guy has less theological knowledge than a 13th century peseant.
It's not fucking heresy ffs this guy has less theological knowledge than a 13th century peseant.
It may very well be Warhammer 40k brain, the kind that cryptofascist dipshits get when they get excited about Exterminatus and want to say "heresy/xeno/witch" a lot to justify their genocide fantasies.
I think you might be putting the cart before the horse here. Warhammer was trying to satirise these guys
Which has in turn been embraced by this kind of guy (especially as the series went on to be less satire and portray the space fascists as heroes more frequently)
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Honestly when you look at the medieval peasant religious movements in the 13th and 14th centuries the presence of visionary women is really striking, of which Joan of Arc is only the most obvious. Many of the most important mystic writers were women. Probably were also the best. So I expect many of them would have known far more about Christianity that this fuckhead.
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Protestants are fuckin' weird
Just living in a state of barely contained rage about people they're never going to actually meet
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It does seem inconsistent with a loving God that he would damn people eternally for not saying the right things.
Luther's theory of people being given a chance to convert after death seems much more reasonable than this for example
Calvinists will say with a straight face that God is Just and Merciful while believing that God arbitrarily selects some people for salvation and damnation based on nothing they have done and will just torture most people forever despite that being definitionally arbitrary and cruel
Calvinists will say with a straight face that God is Just and Merciful while believing that God arbitrarily selects some people for salvation and damnation based on nothing they have done and will just torture most people forever despite that being definitionally arbitrary and cruel
Calvinism is terminal stage rules lawyering and powergaming all for the sake of making the rich and powerful feel righteous by default and leaving no room for good deeds, good works, or love in their calculations.
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The thing is, and my fellow Christians gasp when they hear this: Jews don't believe in Hell. Jesus was a Jew. A rabbi even. Jesus Christ did not have a concept of hell and you will not find a verse where he talks about people suffering for eternity.
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It is a matter of Catholic Doctrine that he does not and salvation is possible without the sacraments even at the moment of death.
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Having a liberation theology Pope has really made those masks fall off - I love it.
He's not LibTheo, he spent his career trying to stop the Jesuit left. He's just not a frothing conservative.
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A few weeks ago, the Pope visited Marseille and said that we should stop drowning people in the mediterranean sea and welcome them.
The Christian right has been losing it's mind ever since, it's really hilarious.
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Pretty big accusation for one who rejects the divine miracle of transubstantiation
"I'm gay am I going to hell?"
FUCK YEAH BUDDY DON'T EVEN BOTHER TRYING YOU KISSED A NOT EAT FUCKING SHIT SO
"My dad claimed to be faithful even though he cheated on my mom 50 times am I going to hell?"
Yeah that's fine women aren't people anyway 🤷
"L Atheist father. Packwatch rip bozo. Get fucked kid" -Poop
kid wouldn't be worried about hell if you didn't traumatize kids with the threat of it.
no credit for weaseling out of a problem you created
Universal reconciliation, babe, all are saved
"get bent kid" - the pope
Whle even it's not perfect, thank God I'm Jewish. Jesus himself is cool, but holy shit are modern Christians smug pricks.
If Jesus was anything like the dude in the Bible he would see modern Christianity as Mammon in the Holy of Holies.
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