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FUCKING DO IT

The fee should be about 1000x higher than listed, but shit, do something

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The new fee is expected to generate as much as $20 million per year, which really isn’t a lot when you consider how much infrastructure projects can cost. And that’s largely because the proposed fees aren’t exactly punitive. Even if you own a 9,000-lb Hummer EV, you’ll reportedly only pay an extra $29.90 per year. Additionally, the fee would only be charged in the 12 most populous counties because it’s supposed to target the places where pedestrian and bicycle accidents happen the most.

No more half-measures, Walter.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

$29.90 per year

Literally a joke amount, why even bother. I think 10x that would get the hogs squealing but I don't think that would slow down registrations, they love their trucks too much.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Probably because once a fee is in place, raising it isn't as politically fucked?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

it's meant to be completely insignificant both to not raise a fuss from drivers and to not be effective at all

edit: the best liberal way of doing this would be to force drivers to actually face consequences from murdering people. The US is notoriously permissive with vehicular manslaughter charges only making most drivers pay fines, do community service, given probation and/or serve no jail time at all.

With that, vehicles weighing >=4000lbs/1800kg OR engine capacities > 3.0L OR power >250hp should be required to have a minimum $1-2M liability insurance policy. Car registration fees should also scale with these factors like some other countries do.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Best I can do is 25/50/25 for liability

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

To put it in perspective, even $300 a year would only be like 3-5% of the amortized cost of owning a truck.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, how much does a propane tank really cost? I know fuck all about American prices, but I reckon you can get a decent sized tank of highly explosive propane gas for roughly 30 dollars anyway.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

I can't win in an accident, but I can make sure we both lose.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

wtf is our hank hill emote called

grill-broke

ty all

Bwaaa

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the emoji picker search: it works folks

you do not have to memorize all the inscrutable names

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why even bother to do this if it's such a meaningless amount

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

rile up the chuds, fan service for the libs and do nothing material all at the same time (aka bog standard dem strategy)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"accomplish nothing, but make the people you hate mad" could be the taglines of both parties tbh

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get the governor to line item veto the decimal place lmao

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

only wisconsin has rules dumb enough to allow that

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I fucking hate seeing a giant fuckoff truck with a spotless bed. All hat and no cattle motherfuckers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Dualie with a tonneau cover

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

anakin-padme-2 "Charge" like charge them with a crime right?

anakin-padme-3

anakin-padme-4 ... "charge" as in charge them with a crime... Right?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wish this law luck against the daunting power of Burgerlanders chanting "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" grill-broke

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mfer using the "playing the game in stealth mode" argument.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m in North Carolina and I find myself picking out vehicles and saying “DEAD” in my head if they’re designed to obliterate pedestrians and other vehicles. So many goddamn lifted trucks, so many massive flat front ends.

Just the other day I counted like 29 deads, vs 4 lives, and 9 maybes

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is the Carolina squat gone yet?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not yet, but several states are discussing implementing bans.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Me: what the fuck is the Carolina squat

Me:

Me: HOW IS THIS ALLOWED

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This reminds me of the anti-slavery prop that passed in Colorado, then a judge looked at it and was like "na that's not what that really means lol".

i-voted

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They'll decide that they should only be charged the fee and avoid prison time once they crush pedestrians.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was it Colorado or California? Because I know in California newsom vetoed the prison slavery bill because paying them minimum wage is “too expensive”

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Even ignoring deaths caused by the size of these being unsafe, people should realistically pay tax based on the weight of their vehicle. We actually have a formula to find out how much force a car is putting on the road, which is totally proportional to how much damage it does to the road. Formula to compare damage between vehicles is (weight of vehicle 1/weight of vehicle 2)^4^. This is an exponential function. Which means, my Prius (pretty much the best car you can get for this) does 50,000x more damage to the road than a bicycle with an exceptionally heavy person on it. A car being an extra thousand pounds isn't just an extra thousand pounds of weight on the road, it's (pretty much, this is NOT exact, I'm too high to really think about my old notes) 1000^4^ more damage to the road.

With this knowledge, cars are barely even a real issue. The study was taken down unfortunately, but a loaded semi is pretty much the equivalent of 10,000 cars. There is an argument to be made that road maintenance would be completely financially viable if it we had high speed rail to replace semis. Ignoring any leftist slant and just going into the universe that carbrains inhabit, this is something carbrains should support. Semis objectively suck to drive around, you can't pass them on the right side unless you have a death wish, and passing in the passing lane is still questionable with their lines of sight. Also because of the insane exploitation of these truckers by corporations, the people driving these trucks shouldn't be driving. My old drugs of choice was SUPER popular among truckers because you don't get tested for it unless you're on probation and have a smart officer. It wasn't a stimulant per se, more like alcohol with far less numbing and stupidity. But if you took the right dose, it would let you stay up for DAYS at a time without feeling it, and it wasn't a heavy enough downer to make you tired unless you wanted it to make you tired. Plus, after you sleep on a decent dose, it becomes a full stimulant as a sleep med. You can get this drug at a TON of gas stations, I've seen Casey's, Love's, and Maverick all stocking it. At best, the trucker you're passing is extremely sleep deprived and running off 72 hours of drinking coffee. At worse, you're dealing with someone using meth to stay up or (I'm not saying what my old DOC is, once you start learning about it it crosses from a normal drug to a straight cognition hazard) speedyxanax^tm^ to not feel the effects of staying up. Either way, they're essentially driving 10,000 cars at a time when they realistically shouldn't even be driving 1.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yeah your math is a bit off. Don't think of it in terms of weight but in proportions.

A 50% weight increase corresponds to: 1.5^4^=5.0625

So more than 5 times the road damage.

https://streetsmn.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/vehicle-weight-and-damage-chart.jpg

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

charge them with murder

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

It's a paid license to maim and kill lol

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

No more half measures, walter

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If this passes it could definitely reduce the arms race because in order to be safe on the road, you also need a death machine.

The one critique that is somewhat valid is that many people do need trucks for work, but what’s missing from this critique is that car manufacturers abandoned the small truck market and only peddles this bullshit. Small trucks are a dime a dozen unfortunately. But still. If people need trucks for work then maybe it’s time to demand the company pay for it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The one critique that is somewhat valid is that many people do need trucks for work

There is almost no work the average contractor can do that wouldn't be better served with a cargo van like a Ford Transit. For anything that absolutely requires a bed, a trailer or Kei truck is superior

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve been noticing all the new pavement in the city having these two parallel tracks that show up after a little time, and there’s no coincidence

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but shit, do something

Not trying to derail the conversation but this is pretty much how we ended up with Genocidin Biden in 2020

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah. But do you really expect the US government to put every SUV into an industrial shredder

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

no more half measures walter

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