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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I keep telling the libs in my life to watch DS9 in the (naive) hope they make the connection between bajor and palestine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can I watch it without watching TNG?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Absolutely. There might be some references you miss, but its a self contained series.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel is currently free to bomb Gaza! expert-shapiro

kubrick-stare Hamas are trying to put an end to that freedom!

The freedom to indiscriminately kill Palestinians is essential to Israel's national identity and sense of freedom! gun-shapiro

shapiro-poplar Therefore, Hamas are NOT freedom fighters!

Checkmate, Commies! shapiro-gavel

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where do we draw the line between the two?

Is there any line they could cross, any at all in the future, where the label changes in your mind?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with this line of thinking, as well as the point the OP's meme makes, is that it's drawing a line between the two in the first place, when in fact there can be significant overlap.

A quick dictionary lookup yields this for terrorism: "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." Note that "especially against civilians" doesn't mean it has to be, just that civilians being involved makes it a stronger case.

Now, you may have already spotted the issue, but here it is anyway: this is an incredibly broad definition. Laws don't bind those in other states, so ANY act of violence or intimidation is unlawful.

So...freedom fighters fight using violence, against the laws of the country that claims sovereignty over them... so they're terrorists. Full stop. This doesn't mean that we should or shouldn't support them, it just means that the definition of terrorism is pretty useless.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

imo, there isn't a line. Hamas are freedom fighters and terrorists. compared to the IDF, who are just terrorists

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Terrorist is a political designation that has no clear definition. It is used as a catch-all term for undesirables as a way to commit war crimes indiscriminately.