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[–] [email protected] 80 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oi mate, 'ave you got your transgender loisense? maw

[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can't just have people importing genders all willy-nilly

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

damn got my gender impounded at customs

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Did you pay duty tax for your gender? nineteeneightyfour

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Thank God they're focusing policy on stuff that affects like 3 people annually. It's not like there's rivers full of shit to deal with.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Making a list of countries that are too cool for us

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago

That’s gonna be a long list

[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago (2 children)

staring up from my budget, where I've allocated several billion dollars for state of the art gender detection machines

Where the hell are we going to find the money for health care, asshole? There's no magic money tree!

[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That reminds me of the time Hillary compared single payer healthcare to a free pony, equivocating people who didn't want to die of treatable illness to spoiled children.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago

Even more infuriating? Equating people that didn't want their children to die of treatable illness with spoiled children.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

equivocating people who didn't want to die of treatable illness to spoiled children.

Its extra infuriating, as Hillary has surrounded herself with people who consider "free pony" to be a perk of their station. Commodification and its consequences.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

how much longer until the backscatter machines at the airport are reverted to how they were in their original rollout where TSA got a good peek at your dick and balls

[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago

Jesus. UK upped their transphobia to another level. Does Russia even do this shit?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What the fuck is wrong with TERF Island, why are they so obsessed with trans people? gui-trans

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Because the conservatives have been in power for so long they can’t point at the previous Labour government any more, which is a problem for them, because they are making people’s material conditions steadily worse. And people are noticing.

Which would be manageable if the Tories had literally anything to offer people to make their material conditions better, but they don’t. So instead they have to offer them culture war stuff to be mad about instead. They offer plenty of that. Trans stuff just seems to be what’s stuck.

God knows why? I don’t get it. But I guess in the uk the war on the homosexual has basically been lost. And try as we might the war on brown people is considered too mask off to get popular support. I guess trans people have ended up the ‘socially acceptable’ other.

ukkk

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

This is a question I've asked myself a lot, here's the best answer I can give:

big ol' screed CW: racism, queerphobia, misogyny, brief mention of CSA, probably some other stuff.

  • Firstly, you must understand that the genesis of feminism in Britain is one that was heavily segregated away from other matrices of oppression. Lacking an intersectional influence you see in other countries' feminist struggles resulted in a feminist philosophy that had calcified as being upper class, white, and deeply homophobic. Many of the thinkers that popularised TERF ideology cut their teeth (so to speak) either in lesbian exclusionary branches of feminism (that argued single sex spaces should also be segregated based on sexuality and lesbians should be placed in the same spaces as men for straight women's safety) or as "political lesbians" (who argued that sexuality is a choice one consciously made and that women could escape the patriarchy by choosing to be sapphic). This is the environment that spawned such intellectual power houses as Germaine Greer, who wrote passionate defences of wanking to images of prepubescent boys. Being toffs, they despise poor people but have a particularly deep hatred of sex workers, hence the popularity of SWERF ideologies in these circles.

  • Popular support of minority rights are almost intrinsically tied to the labour movement due to a long history of solidarity campaigns (such as the NUM/LGBT solidarity campaigns during the Thatcher regime). Both the old school aristocrats and the newer neoliberals therefore hate these minority groups with the same vigour they despise the unions they worked alongside.

  • Britain is ruled not by democracy but rather of a system of rule by the most inbred toff. Thus any intersectional critique of society must jump the hurdle of its activists not being rich enough for MPs to even consider them human. Therefore intersectional feminists were locked out of political influence while the academic, exclusionary feminists were selectively chosen to inform on all feminist issues.

  • This creates a condition where support of queer rights is split along a class divide more than a left/right one. And thus transphobic policies are supported bipartisanly within parliament.

  • secondly, we have had uncontested Tory rule since 2010. Tories are a special breed of right wing ideology in a couple of ways. Firstly, they are died in the wool aristocrats of varying intensity. Tories operate on the complete assumption that they have magic blood they've inherited that makes them superior to plebs like you and I, and have barely concealed contempt for us at best. Secondly, Tories are motivated by an intense desire for one of these at any given time: wealth, power, death, or sex. A decade and change of these fucks (and the coked up liberals of New Labour before then) prioritising personally accruing these has resulted in a country completely gutted and hollowed out of anything capable of maintaining a decent quality of life for the overwhelming majority of the population.

  • The Tory party's main tactic in managing a grip on power is to create a system of culture war scapegoats. When I was a little one, that was Polish immigrants, Muslims and homosexuals, and I vividly recall the moment that they pivoted overnight to blaming Romanians, Muslims, and transwomen (trans men don't exist in the perceptions of this cultural milleu). As the wheels spin off and last bits of tape that hold this country together come flying off, Tories have ramped the moral panics to eleven.

  • Thirdly, after losing ground on gay marriage, homophobic groups both foreign and domestic saw the relative political obscurity of transpeople as an a wedge issue they could try to use to push back against gay rights. Money was splashed around to astroturf campaigns against transpeople and homophobes within the political establishment gave these groups the audience within parliament that the exclusionary feminists already had.

  • Groups like LGB alliance, are Tufton street housed astroturfs that exist as an attempt to drive a wedge between transpeople and the rest of the queer community (and then bisexuals, and sho on zizek-preference ).

  • Finally, and most importantly. Trans rights are not actually as controversial as parliament and the ruling class owned media want to make out. The BBC and tabloids and the like, have been artificially promoting transphobic voices despite polling across the country being heavily tilted in favour of trans positive reform to, like, the GRA and stuff. Although this is an issue with a gendered split, with more women supporting trans rights than men. That's not to say there isn't queerphobia in the working class (I've experienced more than my fair share despite growing up in a place with an otherwise high support of queer rights), just that the working class is less bigoted towards queer people than the toffs trying to pretend they have have a mandate to oppress us.

TL: DR - the ruling class hate us and are trying to propagandise their way into destroying us.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Harry Potter and its consequences

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

it's that post-imperial funk. acute crisis of masculinity and all that.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago

Crackerlist*

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (3 children)

And how will this help people?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago

they're tories

helping people is nasty, evil, and wrong to them

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

I'm sure someone who had an ancestor that knew William the conqueror will corruptly get money to provide the equipment and then not actually provide any equipment

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Bread and circuses. It gives people a feeling of superiority, and therefore, loyalty to the regime.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

And they say the UK is having a turf shortage. Plenty of terf in that headline.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

ukkk: OI! YEW GOT UH LOICENSE FUH THOS TIDDIES!?!?!

(Can I see the list? I want to know what countries to move to when the amerikkkan empire collapses.)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I couldn't find the full list but it includes all countries with gender self-identification laws, which are:

Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Denmark, Ecuador, Finland, Germany (in process of adopting), Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, New Zealand, Norway, Pakistan, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland and Uruguay

But the article says it's 50+ countries, and there's only 20 countries with gender self-ID. So I guess there's another 30+ countries that don't even have self-ID but the tories are claiming the "process is still too easy" or some shit. Seems like they're about to blacklist the majority of western Europe. Also, says they're blacklisting a handful of US states including California

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

a few US states including California.

They're going to try to out KKK Amerikkka lmao. But based Chadifornia, it's one of the few states in the Great Satan that might be somewhat redeemable imo.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

So long as it secedes from the US, moves it’s major cities out of a desert, and establishes communist relations with China 🙏

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

a few US states including California.

They're going to try to out KKK Amerikkka lmao. But based Chadifornia, it's one of the few states in the Great Satan that might be somewhat redeemable imo.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

hermit kingdom rogue state cracks down on civil liberties

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

truly every accusation from the imperial core is a confession

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does the British government know that other countries don't use their Gender Recognition Certificate™? What are they going to do, ask every single immigrant to provide official proof of cisness?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

The null hypothecis works well enough for them unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Imagine being a trans woman in Ireland for half your life just to move to the UKKK for them to legally consider you a man until you can wait through several years of bureaucracy and wait-lists for a clinic and two separate medical referrals. Death to England.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

that doesn't even make sense.

my only hope is the fact I have no faith in the UK governments ability to actually follow through on this

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

The lack of sense is the point. They want it vague so they can attack whomever they want for whatever reason, and they want their scapegoat to be as intangible and foreign as possible to make sure the people continue to froth at the mouth with rage.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Lol, this is gonna backfire on the Tories attempts to have less non white immigrants when they accidentally ban New Zealanders from the UK.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

we have to shut down TERF island until we can figure out what the hell is going on