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[–] [email protected] 55 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Trump is not the worst president of all time Bernie you fuck knock it off the guy barely cracks the top 5.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Andrew Jackson didn't have twitter so who knows how bad he really was

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"the Indians beheaded 40 babies"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

The Cherokee aren't sending their best

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

To the intern named Jody who writes these emails, he is

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Johnson
Jackson
Bush jr.
Truman
Reagan
... Maybe Trump here? Feels like Bush sr. should be up here somewhere too.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You know how bad US presidents are when someone can make a reasonable list of the 5 worst but Nixon and a bunch of slaveowners didnt make the cut

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Every slaveowner beats him out so I doubt he even makes the top 10.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, the argument could be made that some future Presidents didn't own slaves, but created the conditions to make a lot more slaveowners prosper elsewhere. Fuck, I'm gonna stop thinking on this one.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's also definitely an argument that Trump would own slaves if it were still legal (Biden falls under this category too).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

These guys almost certainly have investments in private prisons, I have no doubt about that. While it's not quite the same as outright owning a person, they own shares in companies that preside over and profit from ongoing slavery to this day. Our modern financial system has done a bang up job of obfuscating slavery by making it too abstract for most people to notice, but today's policing and prison institutions are direct descendants of yesterday's escaped slave patrols and plantations.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

I think Jefferson is an underrated contender here. The Louisiana Purchase set the stage for a lot of the subsequent acts of expansion/colonization/genocide. Maybe it's a naive view of history; some degree of expansion is probably inevitable, but it's possible that American expansion could have been slowed/reduced if they had more resistance from other European powers near the start (i.e. if they had to fight France to expand westward instead of getting carte blanche from them). There was not-insignificant opposition to the purchase and Jefferson had a role in pushing in favor of it, so perhaps you could argue that Jefferson has a significant responsibility in driving American colonialism and making it so powerful today. I think you could make an argument that he had a particularly harmful role in how he shaped early US history based on that (and of course due to the slave-owning and protecting slavery that most other early presidents did as well).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Wilson should be in the top 5 for sure.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Medicare for All

yeah haha remember that?

amerikkka

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I got this today as well. Didn't know I was still getting Bernie emails. The subject was eyeroll-inducing, but I had to stop at the bit about Trump being the worst president in history. Left a pretty vicious message when unsubscribing and ended it with a cute little john-brown quote for good measure.

My god what a disappointment. To think I lost sleep after Super Tuesday in 2020 over this fool sadness-abysmal

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My god what a disappointment. To think I lost sleep after Super Tuesday in 2020 over this fool

Same. Fortunately it brought us back to back-to-me

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

To think I lost sleep after Super Tuesday in 2020 over this fool

God, I was such a fucking wreck. Electoralism had never hurt my mental health as badly as that did, and I'll make damn sure it never will again.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

I understand that there is a lot going on in this world today

God damn. Love for my Senate Grandpa to talk to me like a fucking baby.

Anyone else miss when he'd talk about doing Universal Medicare or ending the housing crisis, rather than having some ChatGPT ass intern whine about how they're afraid Republicans might win again?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Hard to agree with the statement Trump is the worst president in American history... One dropped 2 nuclear bombs, another genocided korea, turned Laos into the world's largest minefield, Vietnam... and Bush killed a million Iraqis.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Yeah but he was rude on twitter

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Coward doesn't even want to use the word genocide.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I read the title as "Mediocre for All." I stand by my mind's eye.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Bernie Sanders might as well have an israel, palestine and ukraine flag in his handle

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Idk. Kinda think focusing on m4a is the right idea. The fact that most of the "Left" has given up on fighting for it is a shame.