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Donald Trump is proving he’s racist and stupid with his latest post.

In a Truth Social post Thursday morning, Donald Trump appeared to suggest, again, that presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris isn’t really Black, ramping up his identity-based attacks to the horror of those in his party who consider racism a losing electoral strategy.

Earlier in the week, many GOP strategists, including in the Trump camp, worried that attacks on Harris’s race and gender—which seemed all but inevitable considering Trump’s history of racism and misogyny—would pose a serious liability for the campaign. “We hope he doesn’t act like a crazy racist and sexist person, but we can’t control him,” a source close to the campaign told The Washington Post.

These hopes were quickly dashed in the course of Trump’s interview with the National Association of Black Journalists Wednesday afternoon, in which the candidate claimed that, for years, Vice President Kamala Harris “was Indian all the way, and then suddenly she made a turn and she became a Black person.”

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[–] [email protected] 159 points 3 months ago (13 children)
[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Whatever the answer to that question is, the real answer is "dumber than that."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also acceptable: not as dumb as the people who vote for him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Dumber than that.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

He's a not really that dumb, he's a narcissist. Like, as a legitimate, detrimental mental condition.

Trump cannot backtrack and admit he is wrong, even if it's a small goof. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Dorian%E2%80%93Alabama_controversy

I know people like this in real life, and it's really sad, but also really annoying/grating.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

This is really reductive.

I think coverage of him before 2015 is much more enlightening. One I always point to is the Market Foolery podcasts on Trump, where (TL;DR) he tries to sell private real estate to his public company at highly inflated prices, and hyping the market to buy into this technically-not-illegal scheme.

Thing is, he's good at that kind of scheme. It worked! It wasn't illegal, just basically selling a turd. The Motley Fool saw through it (and met him in person to discuss it, which is what the podcast is about) and made the only short of their career, but still, people drastically underestimate Trump's ability to "sell" ideas that benefit him, to their detrement.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The guy is one of the dumbest people alive. He isn't good at anything but fooling dumb people. He is the king of the dumb people and there are more than we thought.

It's not reductive. It's factual. Quit polishing a turd. He's a moron. He can't even fuck a porn star and pay her without being caught. He's so dumb he can't hide investment lies without being caught. He can't plan to overthrow the government without documentation.

I know 5 year olds with more wit and social navigation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’d be interested to see your take on his prowess as a trickster as mentioned in the parent comment.


We’d be really mad at someone who designed a 3D printed nuclear bomb and used it on our families. They might be socially inept and bad at geography and have no grasp of international affairs, so kinda dumb in some ways. They’d definitely be very evil. But when it came to nuke engineering, they’re evil & not dumb.

I don’t worry I’m glorifying the impeached ex-president when I say “he’s good at fraud.” He has said and done many evil things, including some cunning ones. He’s dumb in some areas. Am I really polishing a turd right now by acknowledging a horrible horrible person isn’t entirely an idiot in every facet of his life, rather only most of them?


Maybe 45’s narcissism is indeed the bigger headline. Narcissistic, evil, morally an idiot, cunning at (smart at executing) certain scams… if we just say “nope bad at everything, 100% dumb” we’re underplaying how dangerous he can be, no?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I’d be interested to see your take on his prowess as a trickster as mentioned in the parent comment.

In my opinion, it's because our systems are woefully inadequate to address even the dumbest of huckster schemes. He's not some brilliant dude for pulling it off. He just has no morals, no ethics, and no shame. And he's spent a lifetime instinctively removing anyone who does from his presence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (10 children)

"There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent." ― Lao Tzu

Your not acknowledging his strengths, which have absolutely gotten him this far. That's a deadly mistake, one the Democrat part has already made far too much.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

His strengths didn’t get him this far. His daddy’s money did.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Another commenter pointed out that he's so fucking stupid he stared directly at the sun when an eclipse happened. Yeah he's not very smart.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And most likely someone else came up with that scheme.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

His VP pick has children who are both white and Indian, but he still can't comprehend Harris can be black and Indian.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, Trump and most of the MAGA base probably don't view the Vance kids as white at all.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The half-assed way Vance "defended" his wife to his party was sickening.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I missed this, was it from the convention? Is there a particular quote?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

“Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

-- JD Vance

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

"I know she's not white, but I love her anyway. And I know that's a personal failing of mine, and I apologize for it"

  • what he implied
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Don't want to offend the white supremacists... they need those votes!

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago

He's "look directly at the sun during an eclipse without eye protection" dumb. Plus he's old, sleepy, and a felon.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

More predictable than dumb, in that in any given situation the man will pick the absolutely worst choice available. Every single time. Even when that choice hurts him.

When his options are (a) pick the right choice, (b) pick a bad choice, ( c) do nothing, or (d) pick something you didn't even fathom because the idea was just so bad that even the biggest moron would dismiss it out of hand, he will go with D. Every single time. Even if it hurts himself. Thankfully, the man can't get out of his own way 95% of the time, and I firmly believe that making even something resembling a rational choice even on the most basic of options would cause him physical pain.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Profoundly dumb. But also super weird. And he hates being called weird.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Weird, Old, Loser, Fat...the alpha W.O.L.F.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Wildly overweight limp fuck?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He's starting a rhetoric. He gaslights and soon there'll be a bunch of Americans caught up in her origins and misleading representation of race. And you'll wonder, "How the fuck did that actually stick?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Will there? Maybe the racist ones who would never be voting for her anyway. Good, let them waste their time with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep, it's just the new talking point from their supreme leader. It was "Sleepy Biden" before, now it's "opportunistic race swapping Harris" (he is better with stupid names so he might come up with something more catchy, but that is the general direction).

They will gobble it up like all the shit they parrot all the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I had a realisation. Might be true; probably isn't. But I have the feeling Trump read The Art of War.

Many of his actions seem to come straight from that book, but from a person that didn't comprehend it appropriately.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

It's just a weird thing to say and a weird stance to double-down on.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Dude literally doesn’t understand that people come from two parents

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

All of it...just all the dumb

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

This is what we call an "n+1" problem, as far as I can tell

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you know you might lose a fair fight, but you also know it doesn't matter if you can leverage mob violence, you stoke the flames.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

He has to be careful with that or his supporters might not be energized to vote.

Oh how the turntables