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sicko-wistful Feel like shit, just want him and his excessive emojis back.

EDIT: Jesus Christ guys

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

I really don't get the love some users have for that guy. He was super aggressive, he held grudges like no one else and if you pointed it out then you were concerntrolling. His analysis never really seemed to be anything beyond surface level, and his volume of posting and general vibe made it so media discussions were almost always hostile. I never understood why he never got banned despite having several meltdowns with much hostility.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm not really a prolific poster anywhere because I have this unhealthy thing where if someone is angry at me online I actually feel bad and spend time introspecting. Your post actually makes me feel less alone, I generally am on hexbear to de-stress and I only remember his handle because no one else has given me an angry reply. People here have generally been polite in correcting my idiot opinions.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have this unhealthy thing where if someone is angry at me online I actually feel bad and spend time introspecting.

Same tbh.

Your post actually makes me feel less alone

penguin-love

I only remember his handle because no one else has given me an angry reply. People here have generally been polite in correcting my idiot opinions.

dude would come out swinging if you disagreed with him in any way. The general vibe has gotten much better after he left.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For some reason I could never take it seriously when he got mad, but I can understand if it was unpleasant for most people.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It wasn't really the "getting mad" but more so the instant hostility and grudgekeeping that got to me. It was kinda fun seeing his deranged posts about mundane things, it just wasn't so fun to see how he would have very obvious negative impact on people he interacted with. Especially because he was a power user, so he would often get a lot of support, while the person he was accusing of doing something would be alone. It took me a while to block him because it was nice to see him go off on chuds. He just went off on everyone, which sucked.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

the instant hostility and grudgekeeping

The thing that got me was that he absolutely kept grudges, but because he was such a prolific powerposter there was no way he could actually keep track of everyone he'd argued with, so sometimes he would haphazardly lump people into grudge groups, and act like they were all the same person. Especially right after federation, it was funny to see some lemmy person wander in and voice an opinion about a tv show or video game and have him go off on them, but it was pretty offputting when he would start referencing the whole history of beef that they supposedly had together, and the other person would be completely baffled.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

To me it seemed like a bit, but I also just realised that for some reason his wrath was never directed at me, so I'm starting to think maybe I'm speaking from a privileged position.

Yeah, I think you're right. I don't wanna Stan the guy anymore if he bullied my comrades. I should have paid more attention to it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To me it seemed like a bit

No I think he genuinely felt that strongly about Netflix shows and thought anyone who didn't take his crusade against them seriously was part of some conspiracy to shut him up.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

I got accused of being an alt of someone else who once disagreed with him. Dude seemed like he had legit paranoia, but if you pointed it out you got your comments removed (sometimes).

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe. I might also just be salty. I have a hard time of letting go of negative interactions, especially ones I felt were "unfair" in some way

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, you're right. I shouldn't have downplayed someone who essentially bullied some of our users.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think maybe he never got angry at you because everyone on here loves you (including me). He was just an asshole imo and nearly all of his posts were bitter and unpleasant, it was enver good vibes with him

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

mispelled never as enver but im keeping it in because it reminds me of another power poster lol

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Especially because he was a power user, so he would often get a lot of support, while the person he was accusing of doing something would be alone.

I think this is the thing. If a guy goes off on how much you suck and then you see him being somewhat celebrated, it becomes a reminder that this is another place where you don't really fit in.

And honestly, I'm extremely awkward and don't fit in perfectly in a lot of places and can still find joy, I just don't like having reminders.

edit like 40 minutes later - my posts in this thread are extremely hyperbolic and make it sound a lot worse than it actually was, the dialogue would be 100% normal on pretty much every other website. Stewing on something so small is not a normal person reaction and I really don't like what it says about me that I still think about this today. Sometimes it's just helpful to speak my bad emotions out loud.

edit again just to get it out: The interaction was in a thread about the gameplay of the Harry Potter game. I commented that I didn't understand why so many people here felt the need to give personal opinions trashing the gameplay of the Harry Potter game because that's irrelevant to the meaningful reasons for avoiding it. I said that any person who did want a serious gameplay critique wouldn't look to get that from a group people who, due to a negative opinion from the outset, are very unlikely to have invested much time. It comes across as sour grapes and waters down the legitimacy of the actual criticisms (namely that it promotes a horrible author).

He quoted a couple bits that I did not feel were the core of my argument and said I was indistinguishable from a kid defending Jordan Peterson and then added in a Jordan Peterson emoji. Seeing that post get upbeared really got under my skin, I never got an explanation that actually made sense to me of what was wrong with what I said. I made a reply but it was entirely ignored.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t really care if people are angry online. But when someone is Sheldon Cooper with more energy while making fun of low energy Sheldon Cooper as if they’re so different, it just becomes a pointless endeavor to have a conversation with them

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I feel this a hundred-fold to be honest. Hexbear is the largest community I feel safe talking because most people are nice and genuinely understanding.

I'm okay in most social situations, but then someone blows up at me over the dumbest immaterial topic and I take it like a stake to the heart. And I spend too many days feeling upset and anxious about it.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Felt like it was always hostility about shit that didn't matter, too. The most annoying argument I ever had here was him absolutely malding about tongue-in-cheek usage of the term "meatspace" to refer to non-internet stuff

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I once had a chuckle at his use of the term "booba waifu" and he had an absolute meltdown about it.

I don't think you can use some of the corny ass lingo imaginable while also expecting everyone to engage with you like you're a super serious academic.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah, most media discussion threads felt like the mood was "if you like this thing you're a disgusting treat baby" and if you ever acknowledged that then you were a disgusting treat baby for feeling attacked when he was really just criticizing the media itself.

I remember him getting pretty unpleasant when I disagreed with him about some D&D edition war stuff.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

If you said anything along the lines of "yeah the politics suck, but what doesn't? Personally I am able to bear with the lib stuff and enjoy the setting. Besides it has some fantastic fight coreography" then you were actually denying all the critique and being a debatebro or something. Except for Avatar, you had to like avatar. If you liked Oppenheimer then you hated women

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Most of my interactions with him was just arguing about how repeating the word "treats" is not a serious political theory and that there is a world outside of Silicon Valley. Everything was a treat, including food and housing.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

I've noticed that a lot of the stuff that's given that treatment here, and other sites, is all stuff that is several years old.

Or in other words, old enough that the person who's saying previously liked it and is now embarrassed about it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

100% agree, dude was super annoying and literally the first person i blocked once the feature was introduced. all of his posts basically boiled down to "let's get mad about annoying, irrelevant shit"

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I remember the time i like disagreed with one of his takes and he would literally reply to ppl replying to me saying shit like "idk why you would talk to this fking idiot" lol

Or like he would bring up previous times i disagreed with him when hes shitting on me lol to show how much of an idiot i am for disagreeing with him

But still credit where its due

The fking dude is free of this shit now i pressume hes fking logged off while im still being miserable here

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I remember how I disagreed with him about a hydraulic bed which he thought was soy because hydraulics aren't trustworthy. I thought it was cool and since the guy was single and had built it himself he was probably aware of the dangers of hydraulics and fine with it, so I didn't see anything wrong with it. Ever since that interaction he would bring up how I hated him and loved techbros. When I replied and pointed out how and I why I felt he was being disingenous, he called me a debatebro and a stalker. I told him that he seemed very hostile and paranoid and that was apparently concern trolling. Then he'd do the thing you're describing as well. From then on whenever we interacted he would immideately write about how my reply was part of some sinister plot to... I dunno, make him love Elon Musk?

But still credit where its due

But yeah he managed to log off and I'm still here. I gotta count my blessing though, until recently I was posting less and less and I am doing a lot more other stuff these days. Hopefully I can also leave some day. Right now I'm focusing on gaming less, reading more and exercising more, and it is going pretty good! This is a bad day tho, since I'm just spending my time hating on a random online person.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

yeah I blocked his ass the first chance I could.

I ran afoul of him a few times but especially remember when he said I needed my "space treats" because I like rocketry.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

remember when he said I needed my "space treats" because I like rocketry

"space treats"

tito-laugh that fucking guy...

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who's not even here hahaha but seriously don't go i like your posts and seeing you around

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Who's not even here hahaha

Aw man, rub it in, why don't you? I guess the reason why it is still able to take up real estate in my mind is not so much that he sucked, but more how so many other users liked him. That and the fact he never seemed to get any mod action. I think that's what's making me salty.

seriously don't go i like your posts and seeing you around

Thank you, that's very kind.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I remember when he got white hot raging mad because I said "i need my truck for work, jed" referring to a comically large truck

but hey i get mad about dumb shit too

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (4 children)

One time he hopped on an alt account just to continue harassing me because I wouldn't agree that breeding decorative aquarium shrimp was the same as the Holocaust.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Wait wait wait, he hated cherry shrimp?!?

NOOOOO my shrimp babies I would never harm them

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Honestly worse than hitler

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

He was a very unique asshole. I also remember him jumping down my throat over nothing.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, he was one of the few hexbear users I blocked.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Yeah same. I still don't understand how he wasn't banned. The dude was incredibly hostile. I remember he accused someone of being a pedophile or something because they liked GoT. It was their first post here. When they wrote they weren't he started to call them debatebros.
I really do not understand why people unironically enjoyed him

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

(Ulysses voice) Even here, on hexbear, treatlord stalker alts are blocking me very-smart

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ironically after this thread i kinda want ulyssesT to come back, a refreshed man, a better man. They left right around the time i got here, in fact all i recall is their farewell post talking about the need to unplug and do "some real communism" iirc. Id love to see what good they time did them, what they've been up to....

Or maybe they learned nothing and i can have a good nasty mudfight...

But that's the part of me I'm trying to get beyond so maybe not lol.

Ok the best part of me just wants the first thing.

Seems the consensus is UlyssesT had some issues but also made an impact on people. Those kinda people fascinate me and tho i don't know em at all, that kind of energy and those screeds speak to pain (in my personal experience) and i want them to get right... so I'm glad they're out there touching grass and hope they come back someday having figured something out.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Before we got user blocks I was trying to figure out if I could block his posts with ublock element blocking lol popup ass posts

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I guess I have more positive memories of him because I never really got in an argument with him. That and he shared my white-hot hatred for the Yudkowskyite/Rationalist crowd.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

His teardowns of Rational™️ Nerds were good delicous slop.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

He was also terrible about using CWs, just throwing out

CW: SA"rape" and "pedo"
nonstop like it was nothing even after being told off many times

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i think it depends on how you interacted with him. his angry rants about pop culture could be fun at times, being in his crosshairs not so much

e: actually reading this thread it seems like i somehow missed most of the worst of it. there's a level of pettiness and hostility that's just unacceptable and it seems like that line was a faint memory for him at best

and this is coming from someone who is deeply and unpleasantly petty and hostile

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

He was always an instant block whenever I made a new account for those exact reasons.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

he held grudges like no one else

Damn I'm gonna need to top this stat

spoilerSorry, I need to avoid social media sometimes because of work. I have no idea if this is true or not.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

remember to talk about the people you have held grudges against in an overdramatic way, like how a marvel comics villain does

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

i'm not seeing the issue

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