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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A place like Indonesia would be even better. No extradition treaty.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Totally, but I'm just going off that he got on a bus so I'm wondering if it was a direct ride to the border or did he go to an airport in another state?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I'm actually curious how a non-rich person could escape to Indonesia without using their passport and without too many people knowing and for the escapee facing too many risks.

[Edit For the sake of clarity - I don't think the CEO killer is doing it this way.]

I think a rich person could do it pretty easily. For example...

  • Sneak into Canada.

  • Sneak over to the Canadian west coast.

  • Use private planes to skip across the Pacific and entirely avoid passport control in this or that country. A rich person on "vacation" surely doesn't have to deal with that crap and nobody checks too closely if the right contacts are used.

  • Eventually hop into Indonesia by landing at a rich person's airport and again avoiding passport control.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

If you've got a strong passport and a white face you can get away with a lot. I've been waved through customs too many times.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A rich person on "vacation" surely doesn't have to deal with that crap and nobody checks too closely if the right contacts are used.

maybe not a billionaire or something, but there's no way the shooter is passing for that. at best they get the customs agent sent out to the private plane to handle passport control there before being allowed to debark. countries still do passport control for private planes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

there's no way the shooter is passing for that.

I didn't say he was.

countries still do passport control for private planes.

My hunch is that you're wrong. If somebody flies a $20 million swanky private jet into the right airport (or airfield) and they don't want to deal with "hassles" they don't have to.

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I googled.

How Private Jets Allow Fliers Around the World to Skirt Immigration

A British whistleblower revealed what the industry already knew: Fly private and anything goes.

[...]

79 percent of private flights, like those to LCY in 2023, faced no passport scrutiny whatsoever, according to the supposedly defective records Neal flagged.

This is not a hill I'm willing to die on. A single article that agrees with me is proof of nothing. But I really believe if somebody is rich enough (or even seems so) they get to avoid all sorts of regulations, rules, and even laws.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

not a hill i'm willing to die on either, chum. interesting article.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

But I really believe if somebody is rich enough (or even seems so) they get to avoid all sorts of regulations, rules, and even laws.

I don't think the Claims Adjuster would be working with such people

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It doesn't matter if he used his passport as long as he's on the plane before they figured out his name be he's safe.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

if you killed a prole maybe but they would absolutely force the plane to land in US jurisdiction for a CEO killer.