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Former President Donald Trump must pay writer E. Jean Carroll over $83 million in damages for repeatedly defaming her, a jury found Friday.

The nine-person jury began deliberations in federal court in New York at 1:40 p.m. ET and reached a verdict in just under three hours.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Wow, 3x the money in punitive damage. Imagine how bad it'd be if this country did anything but fine rich people for being evil...

[–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I overshot the damages award in a previous comment I made. I thought it was going to be closer to $150 million, but $83 million is still substantial. Plus there is a strong likelihood E. Jean Carroll and Robbie Kaplan could sue Donald Trump for defamation again for all the things he posted during this trial.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd just love to see this snowball into an avalanche.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's already happening. He's probably defaming her on Truth Social right now while OD'ing on McDonald's.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He couldn't shut up if his life depended on being quiet. I hope this drains his pockets until there's nothing left.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I hope it’s draining Republican Party coffers, which it indirectly seems to be

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well he a billionaire so $83 million is a drop in the bucket. He’s probably got that much as change in the couch /s

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

“Well he a billionaire” [citation needed].

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I present to you the only proof that he's a billionaire: He said so. That's valid, right? Right? Guys? Anybody?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

In the instance of the court setting damages, I’m happy to accept the highest valuation Trump has to offer

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

In late stage capitalism, having a billion and owing three billion means you in effect still have a billion.

It's not like with normal people who have to subtract debt from assets and actually pay what we owe.

So yeah, he's a billionaire in all ways that affect him and will be until he dies, which can't happen soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

83,000 would be a drop in the bucket. 83 million is more like a water bottle in a bucket.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Waiting for the SCOTUS to (again) reduce punitive damage limits in order to protect their special boy.

Historically, they HATE punitive civil damages and look for cases to cut them back. That's where the current ~4x limit currently exists, which even in the State Farm decision was clearly flagged as toeing the line.

Just look at how little actual damage Exxon ever paid for the Valdez spill. Or McDonalds for the hot coffee. These punitive damages always have a habit of just evaporating after the headlines. Leaving the victim little better off than before.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I doubt that will happen. This is round two of defaming her; it's already been established that he raped and defamed her, and it is glaringly obvious that he did it again (even before this verdict). His team will have to first appeal to the New York Court of Appeals, and it's very unlikely that they'll even hear it.

SCOTUS isn't likely to do him a favor but virtue of the highest court in NY not hearing it and this being a very obvious case of repeat offense. They suck right now, and they've made some really awful arguments and rulings, but they haven't exactly been a rubber stamp for Trump or Conservatives, either.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They're going for the big game, next up.....

Chevron Doctrine.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s a civil case, unfortunately, so jail time was never an option. At the time the incident occurred, there was a five year statute of limitations, so Trump has never been charged criminally in the matter.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There's something truly gross about a civil case being the only recourse for a heinous crime.