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Not a great bit tbh

I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies. It is entirely possible to strategically vote to protect the lives of minorities from being endangered

Except voting for Biden is not strategically voting "to protect the lives of minorities from being endangered" considering the fact Biden has Trump beat on deportations, police funding, prosecution of minority protest/civil rights groups; and normalizing genocide by VOTING for the man who is committing it definitely doesn't protect Muslims and Arabs,

Who's left, queer people who he left to the right-wing mass harassment wolves during the last four years because he was comfortably in power? Like these are basic facts the bluemagas refuse to digest

Your failure of analysis lies in the fact you don't recognize that Biden is the accelertionist candidate, while Trump's incompetence, unpopularity and animosity he receives from the democratic wing of capital is the far safer bet in terms of harm reduction

Right now capital is united, with Trump in office Dems are gonna have an impossible task of going along with him after the apocalyptic anti-trump narrative they've seeded the media with, it's in that disconnect just like after 2016 the new left can actually grow and organize

It's easier to oppose Trump than Biden, and for that reason alone minorities like me want to see the dems eat shit

I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies

Are you fucking serious

(Note: I am not American so I can’t actually vote, but you get the point.)

Why even write all that then?

For the revleft participation in the system is endorsement of it.

You can't tell people to vote in one election and then tell people that actually it needs to be overthrown and think that's going to happen 5 years later.

At some point or another you just have to commit to it being broken and build your movement based entirely on the fact that it is broken and can not be supported in any way whatsoever.

You are not convincing anyone that there is a need for revolution by telling them that actually there is a reason to participate in the system that you want revolution against. Maybe that passes among very well educated theory-heads but it does not work when you exit theory spaces and start talking to the masses.

At least Biden still feel the need to pander to the LGBT community and other minorities, which means he can still be made to compromise on certain issues. With Trump it’s straight up fascism.

I thought your point through all your posts here on Hexbear dot net is that Biden is a much more ruthless fascist than Trump.. Like you can't say:

With Trump it’s straight up fascism.

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I mean no offense to the people who think that Trump is someone who can turn America into a full-blown white supremacist state, but they’re dead wrong. Without the ruthlessness of Biden, Trump could never get it off the ground in a million years.

Which is it? So, with Trump the US is going to be a fascist but not full-blown white supremacist state while with Biden the US will be full-blown white supremacist but not fascist.

Or is this just you doing a bit for your own amusement?

There is no socialist project to become dead in the water. What is possible is the project of Palestinian liberation, and THAT is being actively exterminated by Biden. You are fucking ghoulish to think of 4 more years of this as "4 more years of time to organize while protecting minority lives" while he literally exterminated Palestinians. Are they being protected right now while we bomb them?

Those of us with humanity are already getting punished, it doesn't matter if you play by the rules. And again Palestinians are wiped out while you are concerned with playing by the rules.

You have no use to any movement leftward if you are willing to sacrifice the Palestinians "strategically", you are nothing but another second international offering up other people on a platter. Your "bargain" makes you the enemy of socialists just as much as a republican. Go bathe in Arab blood or whatever you do for fun, we want no part in it

Joe and the dems could pass a voting rights act to protect minority voting rights, just like they could protect abortion rights. What minority lives will they be protecting? They're doing urban warfare centers in every major region, and libs are apparently very comfortable with whole sale slaughter of non white people. It's looking more and more as if Genocide Joe is the more effective evil...

I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies.

If Biden was some feckless loser who just kept bumbling around the White House as a well meaning but ineffective in stopping the fascism the USA is based on/infected with, you'd probably be able to make a "critical support" argument to vote for Mr. Magoo to the Hexbear crowd. But this goes beyond anything that could justifiably be argued as "critical support".

I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies

We are supposed to have a "representational democracy" where 'elected' officials represent the will of the people. Votes are consent. Consent is support. Holding your nose is consent. no matter who fear mongering is part of Manufacturing Consent.

The ruling class doen't need to give concessions knowing Manufactured Consent methods will keep them in power. They do not care if you consent gleefully or with distain. Consent is consent.

Voting for Biden or Trump is to maintain consent for the establishment. Voting outside the establishment is a non consent vote. It doesn't need to win, but a large enough faction where the Winston Smiths can't fudge to hide such as the vote.

They had to cover it. They had to factor it. Maybe not winning the war against....war but it embarassed the establishment. Clearly showing they do not represent us with their actions, and more importantly the World at large there is a reaistance movement to what bullshit our leaders are comitting. That not all wants this and it wasn't just "the Arab population" it was across the board and across demographics.

Ok but we have to know if we have the numbers and we're never going to know that if we vote for Democrats every year. Counting our numbers is critical and worth way more than voting for either fascist party.

Nice try Vaushite shill, I am immune to your pedo power

Every time a Democrat is elected without being held to task to follow through on a progressive platform, the Democratic party slips to the right. Hillary was always well to the right of Obama. Biden is well to the right of Hillary.

What looks like "pandering", if you examine it past the most superficial performative level, is a race to the bottom.

In a swing state maybe it makes sense, but 75% of the population does not live in a swing state.

Pretending to care about something does not mean he can be made to compromise on the issue, he and the dems will pretend to stand for something and then conveniently fail to pass or compromise away everything worthwhile until it's exactly the bill Republicans would have wanted anyway

Don't use LGBTQ people as a rhetorical shield to vote for a genocider.