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i love the quebec pet allowances they are so silly it's like a riddle

Number of pets allowed

Usual limits

A total of 8 pets are allowed (among the allowed species), including the maximum permissible for dogs and cats.

Up to 4 pets are allowed, including a maximum of 3 dogs.

Examples:

  • You can have 4 rabbits, 3 dogs and 1 cat.
  • You can't have 4 frogs and 4 dogs.
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[–] [email protected] 109 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

dogs ≤ 3
cats + dogs ≤ 4
others + cats + dogs ≤ 8
others ∈ Allowed Species

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lol this helped me understand the text, thanks.
Does an aquarium of fish count as one pet, or does every individual fish count?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

It depends on whether you have MERGED the fish

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also, fish do not count towards this limit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Two cats, a dog, and sixteen full grown swordfish

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bluefin tunas will do nicely, too, they grow up to more than half a ton

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Jesus, how much money do you think I make? Put the tuna back, we're getting a guppy....

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if cats + dogs ≤ 4 I read It as not dogs ≤ 4

I guess that your ruleset comes from the mention of including the maximum for cats and dogs and maybe those are the only ones that are called pets but 🤔

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm very confused by the "8 pets are allowed" and "4 pets are allowed", it reads to me like "You can have 8 pets as long as you have at most 4 pets" which obviously makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's just badly translated. In French it clearly says maximum of 4 cats and dogs, of which a maximum of 3 dogs.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Vous pouvez avoir jusqu’à 8 animaux, toutes espèces autorisées confondues. Les poissons ne comptent pas dans la limite de 8 animaux.

Sur ces 8 animaux, vous pouvez avoir jusqu’à 4 chats et chiens, dont un maximum de 3 chiens.

My god, that's so much less stupid!

"You can have up to 8 animals, all (something) authorized species. Fish do not count toward the 8 animal limit.

"Of those 8 animals, you can have up to 4 cats and dogs, with a maximum of 3 dogs."

Both the English and French versions are on https://montreal.ca/en/topics/pet-license

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So it's a trick maths question that actually requires you to know French and have seen these rules in it, seems legit

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

"and these are my pet cats over here, and my working cats over there"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This gives me integer linear programming flashbacks...

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So I can have 12 cats if I have -8 dogs?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's quite heavily implied the above is only defined in ℕ

[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

In Germany my colleague has to send a photo of his turtle every year to some gov/municipal agency, to track it’s growth and prove that is not an exotic/illegall type (which could only be seen when they get bigger)

[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Where can I apply to be a pet pictures officer?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Is this a WFH type job? If so, I'm fuckin in!

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago (5 children)

3 huskies, 4 wolves and a rooster.. wake up bitches..... awooooohhhooooo..

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I've cross-bred eight different dogs with various species of fox, so they all count independently.

Also, jesus christ the smell.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A fox pooped in my yard the other day and fuck that I don't want him back.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Foxes are "prominent poopers" and I have several areas in my (rural) yard where foxes proudly display their turds. Atop an 8x8 fence post, a raised cement culvert opening, a mound of loam I never got around to landscaping with. They are replaced every few days, I find myself noticing the seasonal diets of the local foxes. It's lizards, small rodents and fruit for the most part. Very occasionally birds.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He pooped in my window well and it looked like he shat out 3 full mice, hopefully this doesn't become a thing.

I get a lot of rabbits in my yard, and he's been visiting for a while to hunt them without leaving poops like this.

(Edit: actually I think it's a she, there's a den about 200m from my house and she had two kits last year, if you went for a walk in the morning you would often see them chasing rabbits in and out of the tall grass)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trade one of the wolves for a bloodhound and you can get some real harmony going.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

But then you'd have 4 dogs, 3 wolves and a rooster, and that's against the rules.

What you need is 2 huskies, a bloodhound, 2 wolves, a kakapo, a howler monkey, and a rooster. For best results, duct tape your kakapo to your monkey.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

CockadoodledaWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Makes sense to limit how many you can have, so you can't have ridiculous number of cats or dogs in a small space. But it gets complicated with smaller animals and since they all have different space requirements.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You may have up to seventy kilograms of dependent biomass under your care.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Does seem silly to say someone can have 3 dogs and 4 cats but can't have 9 frogs/snakes/birds

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"I have an ant farm with like 986 ants."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

You must choose 4.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What about 5 frogs 2 dogs and a cat?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Not allowed. You can have a maximum of 4 items of given pet type, 3 for dogs. You will have to give one frog away.

https://montreal.ca/en/topics/pet-license

https://montreal.ca/en/topics/authorized-pets

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What's the value of 3 frogs in cats?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Pretty low, as the frogs are most likely dead at that point

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

no mention of horses, pigs, spiders or other inverts, so are those banned or not? seems like someone in admin really hated pets

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

They don't want farm animals in residential area, and I'm pretty good with no Arachnids list. And of course Goose is twice on the banned list to make it clear.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

what if I trade one of the frogs for an alpaca?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (4 children)

You have one cat. It gives birth to a litter of four. What do?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

Believe it or not, jail.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When a dog, cat or rabbit gives birth, the puppy, kitten or kit may be kept without a license for a maximum of three months.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You have to get licenses for your pets? Wtf?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How are they going to enforce pet limits if you're not required to register your pets? It's an annual tax per pet. It's also meant to encourage people to spay and neuter their pets. The money goes towards administering and enforcing the pet by-laws. It's usually something like $10 per pet that cannot reproduce, $50 per pet that can.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Breeders. At that point you’re probably considered one.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just want to know who in their right mind would want to have 4 Rabbits, 3 dogs, and a cat all in one house

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have a friend with three kids. They had at one point 3 rabbits, 2 dogs and a cat. They don’t live on a farm, but they do have a large property (countryside).

When I was in college I had a classmate who was living with 5 roommates in a large house and had 8 cats amongst them. No idea if it was legal then or if the landlord even knew.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

It's like saying, if you can't figure this out, you aren't worth the one extra dog you have, please give it away.

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