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[–] [email protected] 123 points 8 months ago (4 children)

These aren't weird people with mental health issues standing on the corner with signs. These are elected Republicans. I'm afraid of Republicans. I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 8 months ago (2 children)

These aren’t weird people with mental health issues standing on the corner with signs. These are elected Republicans.

That's exactly what they are.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

Haha, fair enough!

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They in fact are weird people with mental health issues.

I think a case can be made that a considerable amount of the ugliness we see in the world is a fairly direct consequence of the simple fact that a significant number of people in positions of power and influence are profoundly mentally ill.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (4 children)

If I was on the governing committee of a major political party, I'd be funding trips to places like Hiroshima and Auschwitz for members of our party that are running for office for the first time, not for the photo op, but so that maybe they can get some fucking perspective and not say batshit stupid things that make us look like a bunch of genocidal racists.

Idk, just a thought. Assuming that "genocidal racists" isn't a significant voting demographic that you are trying to appeal to.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is exactly the sort of nonsense that my suggestion is designed to avoid.

If all you know about Hitler is that he was in charge of Germany during the second world war, they lost, a bunch of people died, but their uniforms looked cool (Hugo Boss, looks sharp) and people called him "Fuhrer" (German sounds so badass) then yeah, this kind of thing doesn't seem so off.

I want my representatives - whatever their affiliation - to have stood in front of the pile of children's shoes and the mass graves and the charred ruins. I want them to have stared at the abyss, felt the horror and the despair and the inhumanity and the evil and truly understood the weight of the responsibility they have to ensure we learn from our history.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

You don't understand.

You can show them all the horrors of war, and they'll tell you that they have the fortitude to do whatever is needed to protect the homeland. To them not flinching shows how tough they are.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

That's the problem, for republicans "genocidal racist" IS a voting demographic they're trying to appeal to.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (38 children)

Those voting third party are ushering these guys in.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Wait a second. You could have been blaming the Republican voters, because they actually voted for the guy. You could have been blaming the Democrats for not fielding better candidates. Instead you're blaming that small minority of people who thinks that both parties suck and neither of them is going to fix the major problems facing the United States. And all the while, Democrat candidates know exactly how to get more progressive votes: push progressive policies.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Evan McMullin's vote total in Minnesota in the 2016 Presidential election was larger than Hillary Clinton's margin of victory. Gary Johnson's vote total was almost 3 times McMullin's total. Johnson's vote total was larger than Clinton's margin in Colorado, too. If it weren't for third-party voters, Clinton would've had an even worse electoral college drubbing. (Perhaps this is the case in other states, too. Those are the two that I know off-hand.) Much has been made about how Jill Stein's vote total in Wisconsin in 2016 was higher than Clinton's margin of defeat, but without any 3rd party candidates, she would've lost by even more.

In 2020, Jo Jorgensen's vote total in Wisconsin was larger than Biden's margin of victory, as well as in Minnesota, Arizona, and Georgia. Her vote total in Pennsylvania was very close to Biden's margin of victory there. Without 3rd party candidates, Biden would've lost in 2020.

This article is about Rep. Tim Walberg, who blew out Democratic Party challenger Bart Goldberg in 2022. The 3rd party candidates in that race were from the Libertarian and U.S. Taxpayers parties. Without them, Walberg's margin of victory would've been greater.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

It's absolutely true that voting third party is a really dumb strategy that will never achieve anything good and could conceivably allow for worse outcomes. It's also true that this potentiality is way overblown because of ineffective Democratic politicians using third parties as an excuse for their pathetic underperformance.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago

I'm so fucking embarrassed for my state right now.
This makes two assbag comments just in the past three days.

Most of us here really are rational, normal people.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I expected it to be the same guy who called a basketball team a bunch of illegals, but it's not the same person. Are all Michigan reps this dumb? Just asking questions.

Edit: typo

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Are you familiar with the Republican party?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

looks at Flint water disaster

yes

Whitmer was at least a very very nice upgrade from Snyder

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I once considered myself an Independent voter who could go with either a Democrat or a Republican. Republicans are making it very easy these days to call myself a Democrat.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

My wife's family was all Republicans. The matriarch is even a politician and was elected as a Republican.

With my goading, Trump's four years in office was enough to convert all of them to Democrats.

They see it like, to the extent they were ever Republican, that's not today's Republican party, period.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

It's nice to hear a story with a good outcome. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

That's great, but unfortunately that's only a temporary victory since once trump is gone, it'll be seen as if the problem has been rid of, when in reality the problem is republican policy as usual, which trump is following to a T.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Remember all the people saying we shouldn't vote for Biden because of what's happening in Gaza? It's literally all over this website.

This is the alternative. Vote in November.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is disgusting. I hope this guy gets voted out.

Unsurprisingly the "genocide Joe" crowd never comments on articles like this when Republicans say or do stupid shit. I'm looking at you @linkerbaan

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Likely not. His constituents are nutters.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

Sick, demented

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Americans have forgotten all of the lessons of WWII.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

To be fair all guys like this remember is that we dropped nukes on Japan and the war ended. That's the depth of the thought process. Maybe also that we didn't drop nukes on Vietnam and we lost. That sounds about right for that guy's age.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Israel apparently as well.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

These fucks are evil.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

This isn't new. I remember them talking about glassing Afghanistan and Iraq back in the "turrerists hate our freedumb" days.

[–] Highlybaked 15 points 8 months ago

Pretty average statement from a republican, why do people support these deranged monsters again? I thought there was limits to stupidity but Americans keep making me hold their beer

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

.....wouldn't that just be nuking both of them? Israel is about the size of New Jersey.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Yes, he thinks he is brilliant for his subtlety.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Alternatively, nuke Jerusalem and everyone will stop fighting over it.

Jk, it wouldn't stop shit.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What an incredible idea, right? And then there won't be any negative aftermath like radiation or anything, right? Right?!

Asshole.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

As I understand the geography, nuking Gaza would also irradiate a portion of Israel, so its not realistic anyway. I agree that genocide is asshole behavior.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

We need a new word for stereotypes that’s way worse.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Does he also pass out pamphlets on eating babies?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nuke the world. End all problems.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Then where would they build their condos?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Why not nuke Bethleham or Tel Aviv?

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