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db0 and Unruffled have both been banned for reactionary behavior and, in the case of the former, DM harassment.

Due to these irreconcilable differences we thought it only right to allow the community to weigh in on defederating immediately.

According to this person "tankie" is anyone that criticizes the privilege of white westerners in the imperial core who have been privileged and comfortable their entire lives off of the backs of colonized people.

Further context can be found in this thread

https://hexbear.net/post/2484423

As always, use dean-smile to vote for federation and dean-frown to vote for defederation.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

dean-frown

There’s some good people on there who could be comrades. They’re welcome to make accounts here if they care enough

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

dean-smile

A lot of dbzer0 users are cool people

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Choosing "the dude" as your avatar and then whining about tankies really says a lot about who this person is.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

It gets a lot worse when you actually interact with this reddit-ass dingus, but yeah, you're right with that first impression.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

dean-frown

honestly i think the threshold for defederating with other instances should be very low, and harassment from instance admins is certainly above that. If we defed from an instance, the worst thing that happens is... people from one instance can't use the same account on the other. The horror!

I don't care if that makes our community less discoverable, or lessens the flow of dunkable libs. Having a non-shitty place on the internet to enjoy isn't something to take for granted.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (6 children)

It was one guy specifically and that person was banned

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (4 children)

dean-malice

Lets remain Federated, leave the admins banned, and turn their site against them

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

dean-frown

But it is funny that by their own definition they are a tankie lmao. Welcome to the resistance liberalism

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

dean-smile

also, re-federate with programming.dev

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Is it illegal to vote if I came from dbzer0 and made this account days ago and haven't really posted through this account until now?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

Even I think we should defed from divide by liberal and I historically (and still) think we should federate with more rather than less.

Fuck dbzero the Internet would be better off without them.

dean-frown

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

dean-smile

if their admins get mad enough to defed from us that's their issue. i think staying federated as a default (except for fascist or Zionist instances) is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

dean-frown I swear 90% of the dbzer0 posts I see on the all feed are either /c/[email protected], which we could and frankly should have a local equivalent to; and /c/share_[email protected], which is just Stable Diffusion pictures of random anime characters shared by exactly one person. Both these communities together account for only a small fraction of the all feed. As I see it, defederation from dbzer0 would have virtually no impact on the content available on Hexbear. Those few Hexbears who need access to the content of dbzer0 can always have alt accounts on other Lemmy instances which do federate with them.

Average dbzer0 users have an opportunity to migrate to Hexbear, some already have alt accounts here. I think dbzer0 users should strongly consider migrating here or to any other instance that federates with us, if their home instance's administrators are so incompetent and generally unpleasant, and they desire to have access to the content of Hexbear.

All in all, my recommendation is to create our own piracy community, make sure that users of dbzer0's piracy community know about it, and then defederate.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

dean-smile

the bit idea of staying federated but banning their admins is making me laugh and i support it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

dean-smile

I agree with everyone else here that a lot of the users there seem cool and we shouldn’t punish them for shitty behavior of their admins.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

dean-smile Unless a comm is absolutely insufferable like those radlibs at 196, i don't like defederation and I rather enjoy the occasional squabble with the libs. I know a lot of people here disagree with that but this is my vote

EDIT: ah fuck i already cast my vote wrong. is it too late to change???

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

dean-smile

all the dbzero members I've seen here are pretty cool, and, as stated by many others, banning the admins but staying federated is a very funny bit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

dean-malice

Make them defed from us. Lol

dean-smile incase you're auto counting

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

dean-frown If its going to be increasing diffcult to interact with dbzero due to mccarthyism we shouldn't bother pretending.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

dean-smile the continual chase to defederate every instance that isn't run by a 100% ideologically pure Marxist leninist is soy af, besides a load of the dbzero users are cool. Like, what was even the point of federation if we're going to defed one of the only other (at least nominally) left wing instances on lemmy

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

dean-malice As long as none of our marginalized users are being harassed extensively. I think its better to expose libs to brain worm poison than it is to defederate.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

dean-smile in favor of the bit of banning the admins of another instance. Too good to pass up.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

:dean-frown: I only go to their piracy comm for the sidebar link for the list of sites when wanting to find stuff not on my main sites I use. That repo is from reddit anyway so we can just create our own comm and tack it into that or vett the sites ourselves or whatever.

~~Also lol I tried to emoji on Jerboa...~~

Never mind Ol' Hank seems to be working.

Also, we should def make a piracy comms. I donno if I am mod material but I can help with some more amateur stuff. I know enough to not get in trouble. I run my own media server and am behind a VPN like half the time I'm online anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

dean-frown Federation is a silly idea that only creates useless drama, constantly breaks, and auto archives everything. If you ask me a fed invented it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

dean-frown defed from everything except grad. Some .mls are allowed some of them are alright people.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Hey "Fuckling3000" was meanie to me .. can i wield insane collective action , involve everybody and try to form a Lynchmob ,

but :

db0 and Unruffled have both been banned for reactionary behavior

?

THEY ARE ALL KHAMAS !!!! AMALEK !!! EVERYBODY !!!! EVERBODY !!! THE CHILDREN ; THE OLDERS !!! THE DOBZERS ; THE LEMMEE ; THE LEMM WORLD ; THE LEMMIGRAD ; THE LEMMY.ML ; EVERYBODY !!!

dean-smile

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

dean-malice

Ban their mods and admins but stay federated

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

dean-frown defed for db0 harassing a traa mod but also cause there has been at least one instance where we got someone sitebanned here from dbzero for a transphobic comment on traa without that person being banned over there shrug-outta-hecks https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/Shake747 https://hexbear.net/modlog?page=1&userId=79070

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

dean-smile

This shit ain't that serious.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

dean-frown We should be reaching out off site (like Tik Tok) not stuck babysitting a bunch of reddit basement dwellers and spoon feeding them basic ass facts about the world that your typical gen z high schooler figured out years ago

Federation on lemmy is a placebo, there's a whole world beyond these caves

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

dean-smile

I think defederation should be avoided unless the instance is really bad, like overtly racist nazis.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

The mods may be annoying but I like seeing users and posts from their instance. dean-smile

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

dean-smile

The users there shan't bear all their sins of the mods, as far as I'm concerned...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I thought I was a tankie because I respect Lenin, but the new goal posts still hit home

I'm down to keep explaining but also understand if people are uncomfortable

I voted both ways and now I'll sit on the fence

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Remain federated so the PIGPOOPBALLS continues to flow

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