Choosing "the dude" as your avatar and then whining about tankies really says a lot about who this person is.

honestly i think the threshold for defederating with other instances should be very low, and harassment from instance admins is certainly above that. If we defed from an instance, the worst thing that happens is... people from one instance can't use the same account on the other. The horror!

I don't care if that makes our community less discoverable, or lessens the flow of dunkable libs. Having a non-shitty place on the internet to enjoy isn't something to take for granted.

Lets remain Federated, leave the admins banned, and turn their site against them

I don’t usually support full de-federation unless it’s extremely bigoted/hateful content coming from the instance. Libs being libs is just the world we live in.

A lot of dbzer0 users are cool people

But it is funny that by their own definition they are a tankie lmao. Welcome to the resistance

We should stay federated with as few instances as possible until we have a proper separate instance that is only federated with Hexbear and Lemmygrad for our marginalized comrades to hang out in safely. After that we should federate this instance (hereby referred to as the Dunk Zone) with as many instances as possible

also, re-federate with programming.dev

Is it illegal to vote if I came from dbzer0 and made this account days ago and haven't really posted through this account until now?

I swear 90% of the dbzer0 posts I see on the all feed are either /c/[email protected], which we could and frankly should have a local equivalent to; and /c/share_[email protected], which is just Stable Diffusion pictures of random anime characters shared by exactly one person. Both these communities together account for only a small fraction of the all feed. As I see it, defederation from dbzer0 would have virtually no impact on the content available on Hexbear. Those few Hexbears who need access to the content of dbzer0 can always have alt accounts on other Lemmy instances which do federate with them.

Average dbzer0 users have an opportunity to migrate to Hexbear, some already have alt accounts here. I think dbzer0 users should strongly consider migrating here or to any other instance that federates with us, if their home instance's administrators are so incompetent and generally unpleasant, and they desire to have access to the content of Hexbear.

All in all, my recommendation is to create our own piracy community, make sure that users of dbzer0's piracy community know about it, and then defederate.

if their admins get mad enough to defed from us that's their issue. i think staying federated as a default (except for fascist or Zionist instances) is a good thing.

Even I think we should defed from divide by liberal and I historically (and still) think we should federate with more rather than less.

Fuck dbzero the Internet would be better off without them.

the bit idea of staying federated but banning their admins is making me laugh and i support it.

I agree with everyone else here that a lot of the users there seem cool and we shouldn’t punish them for shitty behavior of their admins.

all the dbzero members I've seen here are pretty cool, and, as stated by many others, banning the admins but staying federated is a very funny bit.

db0 (the person) is cooler when he's scratching liberals instead of having ego clashes with Raddle and whatever the fuck this is:

~500 comments about our instance and admins in the past week. Talk about needing to touch some grass…

waow! that's like… 16 personhours! 'touch grass' says the "epicurean" (read: emotional ascetic) who can't take an L (that didn't need to involve him in the first place).

i'm only on dbzer0 because of its position on the federation graph and its ostensible values. i think most people would be better off treating db0 the same way most anarchists — not radlibs — treat him and ziq: angry, unhelpful old person who yells at clouds, and occassionally says something unexpectedly wise, but you should never make eye contact.

Unless a comm is absolutely insufferable like those radlibs at 196, i don't like defederation and I rather enjoy the occasional squabble with the libs. I know a lot of people here disagree with that but this is my vote

EDIT: ah fuck i already cast my vote wrong. is it too late to change???

Make them defed from us. Lol

incase you're auto counting

If its going to be increasing diffcult to interact with dbzero due to mccarthyism we shouldn't bother pretending.

the continual chase to defederate every instance that isn't run by a 100% ideologically pure Marxist leninist is soy af, besides a load of the dbzero users are cool. Like, what was even the point of federation if we're going to defed one of the only other (at least nominally) left wing instances on lemmy

Hey "Fuckling3000" was meanie to me .. can i wield insane collective action , involve everybody and try to form a Lynchmob ,

but :

db0 and Unruffled have both been banned for reactionary behavior

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THEY ARE ALL KHAMAS !!!! AMALEK !!! EVERYBODY !!!! EVERBODY !!! THE CHILDREN ; THE OLDERS !!! THE DOBZERS ; THE LEMMEE ; THE LEMM WORLD ; THE LEMMIGRAD ; THE LEMMY.ML ; EVERYBODY !!!

defed from everything except grad. Some .mls are allowed some of them are alright people.

:dean-frown: I only go to their piracy comm for the sidebar link for the list of sites when wanting to find stuff not on my main sites I use. That repo is from reddit anyway so we can just create our own comm and tack it into that or vett the sites ourselves or whatever.

~~Also lol I tried to emoji on Jerboa...~~

Never mind Ol' Hank seems to be working.

Also, we should def make a piracy comms. I donno if I am mod material but I can help with some more amateur stuff. I know enough to not get in trouble. I run my own media server and am behind a VPN like half the time I'm online anyway.

in favor of the bit of banning the admins of another instance. Too good to pass up.

As long as none of our marginalized users are being harassed extensively. I think its better to expose libs to brain worm poison than it is to defederate.

Federation is a silly idea that only creates useless drama, constantly breaks, and auto archives everything. If you ask me a fed invented it.

defed for db0 harassing a traa mod but also cause there has been at least one instance where we got someone sitebanned here from dbzero for a transphobic comment on traa without that person being banned over there https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/Shake747 https://hexbear.net/modlog?page=1&userId=79070

This shit ain't that serious.

Ban their mods and admins but stay federated

We should be reaching out off site (like Tik Tok) not stuck babysitting a bunch of reddit basement dwellers and spoon feeding them basic ass facts about the world that your typical gen z high schooler figured out years ago

Federation on lemmy is a placebo, there's a whole world beyond these caves

The mods may be annoying but I like seeing users and posts from their instance.

I thought I was a tankie because I respect Lenin, but the new goal posts still hit home

I'm down to keep explaining but also understand if people are uncomfortable

I voted both ways and now I'll sit on the fence

I think defederation should be avoided unless the instance is really bad, like overtly racist nazis.

The users there shan't bear all their sins of the mods, as far as I'm concerned...

I remember when the authoritarian admins would make a decision without asking the rest of chacha. SMH my head chapo.chat had been takin over by liberals