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It's the dunk tank.

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I would be real disappointed if that was true

Also, why are pronouns bad when we do it?

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"Ok guys I just got this great idea for how we can troll the left, it's really funny I promise, what if we like, what if we all like, set up a community where we pretend to be commies, and also a bunch of us were like, trans and gay and stuff? No no like hear me out we would like ban anyone who says slurs or questions the validity of trans people in any way, lol. Like, what if we designed a bunch of custom emojis with the trans flag and made everyone display pronouns next to the name to make sure nobody gets misgendered? That'd be so funny lol. But we HAVE to make sure nobody catches on, so we should just like, keep the bit to ourselves for a couple years, we'd have to like, spend a couple years hanging out in that kinda space with just us until we can perfect the bit. Ok so who's down?"

Seriously, have these people met chuds before? I'd be impressed to see one that could keep the mask on for like a day.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Don't forget having fucking reading groups and forums for learning about leftist theory and history and having many users on hand who can discuss Marxist, etc. works with a great deal of familiarity, often readily including citations and encouraging people to do their own reading.

This is some "Judeo-Bolshevism" level shit

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Would you be able to recommend some threads/comms that discuss theory and history? I'm new to hexbear and want to read up.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think they have met CHUDs. They talk about them, but almost never actually interact with them. So their entire idea about them is concocted in their own heads. That way they don't risk being challenged by the way the CHUDs use exactly the same arguments as libs.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You might have a point. I guess most of us here are better at understanding what goes on inside the heads of chuds, compared to the average person.

At the same time, I think a lot of the stuff people say about us are symbolic beliefs that have more to do with the person saying them. For example, I don't think libs "really" think we're bots or foreign agents, but denouncing us as such lets them reaffirm their loyalty to the state. And this "secretly right-wing" stuff has the same feel. They believe it the same way people "believed" that Trump was going to make Mexico pay for the wall, they just like the way it feels when it comes out of their mouth.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Incredible bit idea though, getting a bunch of grillman on estrogen for 3 years learning about queer theory to stick it to the libs

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Just like all their other bullshit. They claim we're right-wing, they claim we aren't LGBTQ+ accepting, they claim we support Putin, yet no matter how many times we ask, never once have they ever bothered to pony up any evidence to back up these wild accusations.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue is that the liberals have figured out you don't need evidence. You just need more people to repeat a message often enough for it to become the accepted """truth""". It doesn't have to be the actual truth but you create it by making people believe it through repetition.

It's propaganda, and it works. Nobody is immune to it including us, but the more switched-off to propaganda that people are the more susceptible to it they are. And the vast majority of people are switched off to it.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a good thing we outnumber and outpost them arm-R

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's why they defederate us though. They create a chamber in which we don't exist, and then repeat the propaganda without opposition where people believe it.

They did the same with historical revisionism, like the ribbentrop pact, and look at how almost every lib repeats that ahistorical shit now.

Social media pillarisation is about getting communists away from susceptible liberals, so that they don't become communists and so that communists don't interfere with their propaganda by injecting the actual truth.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So people here are right wingers pretending to be trans and left wing. In order to keep up the charade, we suppress our deeply held right wing urges to hate gay people by banning all homophobia, mandating pronouns, and having explicitly pro-trans comms. And we've done all of this completely isolated for years.

And we have executed this plot in order to....?

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago

Trick the Good Liberals on the Internet and make them doubt the purity of their faith

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (8 children)

i was browsing blahaj to see what the aftermath of defederation was like. reading the thread this came from made me so angry i had to just stop

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yeah, those shitlibs really drove my brain cells to the brink of death in such an intense way that it awoke me from my 2 year old slumber. No more lurking, only dunking from now on. knifecat

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

first time I've ever seen them posting theory of any kind and it's to something by ziq sus-lovecraft

edit- no shade to my anarchist comrades, ziq is obnoxious

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago

that's not theory, that's just radlib ranting posted to the anarchist library

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Wait thinking Johns are gross is being detached from reality now? Really? Have any of these people actually talked to anyone in real life? Even fucking dudebros hate on Johns and call them simps lmao. Like I'm telling you, you're not going to find much support for this in the real world. There's a reason men don't solicit sex workers in public and tell their wives about it.

There's a reason sex work models in some countries make "selling" legal but "buying" illegal. It's a real thing in the real world.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They picked probably the worst possible example to prove how disconnected we are. Shoulda gone with the rock stacking struggle sesh smh

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Yeah there's so many things they could have focused on, like outdoor cats vs indoor cats, rock stacking, our extremely weird in jokes, but they chose the one thing, which isn't even a general position on here, just the opinion of one user, in which their views line up with societies general outlook.

Has real "I'm pro sex work because I want to have sex with these women" vibes.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The first paragraph is very:

If you are not a liberal at 25, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at 35 you have no brain.

Which has been a pet peeve of mine for a while. I think usually because they don't give any reasoning or explanation. It's just "you don't understand the world yet", then explain it to me!

I feel like the intent has to be just to dismiss young people's views as being out of touch, without offering anything better.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was a libertarian at 25 and i'm a communist at 40, their truism sucks and is wrong

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was conservative at 10, libertarian at 12, social democrat at 15, anarchist at 25, and Marxist-Leninist at 30.

Why would I become more conservative when capital is making the world more shit every year of my life lol

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago

if we're pretending to be leftists, how are we BETTER at it then them?

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago

Because even though they can't find any evidence of right wing ideology on this instance, they know it's here. Any REAL leftist would support the USA and NATO no matter what. And since rightwingers and tankies hate LGBT people, that must make the pronouns a mockery. It's sarcasm on top of sarcasm.

It only makes sense if you start with the conclusion and work backwards.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For a fun game go to blahaj.zone and search locally for any mention of leslie-feinberg

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"In fact, we carried, before we had a pride flag, we carried the North Vietnamese flag as our pride flag. Now you could hear that and think “well that’s interesting”, but it wasn’t just an abstract thing.

(And by the way, I know there’s some people who have to leave at, uh, for a nursing class here; nobody’s gonna look at you funny when you go. I know people are starting to get nervous about—don’t worry, you go with our grace.)

So, the Gay Liberation Front and the Third World Liberation Front named themselves in solidarity with the North Vietnamese people at a time when that was considered treason. That’s like now, coming out and defending the resistance of the Iraqi people, the Palestinian people, the North Korean people, the Iranian people, the Cuban people. We face getting beaten up on the streets for marching with the Vietnamese flag but we knew that if we didn’t defend the Vietnamese people we were gonna weaken, first of all the people who deserved our support because we were the aircraft carrier in which the war was being launched in all our names. We would lose the solidarity with the Vietnamese people and we would lose our own political souls and movement as well if we didn’t take a position in support.

We were supporters on the front lines of the women’s liberation movement even when there were some who didn’t want us to be there—who said ooh, if you could just get out of the way, because you know, we’re strong women and they’re calling us lesbians [be]cause you’re around. We’re like, excuse me, we’re withstanding the lesbian invading—you better get used to that. As strong women you better get used to saying “and yes, many of us are!” Because otherwise, you’ll just back yourself right off a cliff. And I would ask you, do we have an equal rights amendment today? It was not a winning strategy.

We were involved in all these struggles, but not because we said it’s gonna be a tit-for-tat: “I’ll do this if you’ll do that. I’ll come to your demo Wednesday if you come to mine Thursday.” We did it because we knew it was a fight we had to join and be a part of. And it strengthened all—"

feinberg-sicko

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Wait we have cishet people here?

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is an aggressively LGBTQ+ space and if you're cishet and you're still with us you're unironically one of the good ones™

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago

There are dozens of us. DOZENS!

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sweetie you're not an ally to LGBTQ people unless you're a mask off scratched liberal who loves war.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago

My gay ass using also my gay ass as a shield

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We are the right wing? Does this mean we can get corporate funding and unlimited access to the mainstream media?

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah more vile shit about how AKCHTUALLY all those queer Hexbears aren't actually queer. Please keep invalidating my identity libs maybe eventually if you hate me enough I might want to join your hateful little shit club

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not a shield. I'm the got damned bear eating your face.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

"Did you know that if you don't throw your trans comrades under the bus to appease chasers and ableists that it totally means you're actually just using them as a shield bro, just trust us bro"

Every accusation a confession.

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