“So what if we burn down the government. What are ya gonna do? Impeach us?”
this post was submitted on 08 Jun 2024
263 points (98.2% liked)
politics
18651 readers
4895 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
I don’t think they realize that if the government burns down, there’s nothing to stop the beheadings.
I don’t want beheadings. I want a functioning government. Unfortunately, not everyone is a pacifist.
What's amazing to me about the people who are facilitating the downfall of democracy on behalf of their oligarch and demagogue buddies is that they've deluded themselves into believing that they will still be of use, once democracy is good and dead.
If you're looking to murder democracy, you need accomplices, people in positions of power within the existing government to help get the job done. But once it's done, what do you need those accomplices for anymore? If anything, they're just loose ends for you to tidy up within your full-on fascistic government.
The Teds Cruz and Clarences Thomas of the world serve a purpose in helping achieve a hateful goal, but once they've outlived their usefulness, they will absolutely be made to disappear, if for no other reason than because they know too much.
They're basically setting up a scenario whereby they will either be facing an angry mob for their role in attempting to kill democracy, or else they will be facing a purification squad once they successfully replace democracy.
Not great on long-term planning, if you ask me.
There is no ivory tower tall enough to avoid the political implications of the court’s decision.
That's damningly naïve, given how this gestures at the entirety of US politics works..
There’s a system in place, it just hasn’t been successfully used in the history of our nation.
Justice Samuel Chase was the only impeachment in Supreme Court history. He was acquitted by the Senate in 1805, and served until his death.
https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/impeachment/impeachment-chase.htm
With the potential for many abstentions in the November election, and 33 Senate seats on the ballot, it’s possible for Republicans to take control of Congress. That would essentially ensure immunity for SCOTUS.
They won't know what the constitutional originalism says about this one until November.
I know what constitutional originalism says.
The question is whether they think they can get away with not even doing that without being hanged.
Unfortunately the person most likely to hang them is Donald, if they hand him a Long Knife. Even despite the corruption and treason they'll have zero consequences unless they anger a petulant manchild who is allowed to kill on a whim.
The three branches of government as a whole are playing with fire right now.
- Judiciary - all but completely illegitimate at this point
- Legislative - gop is a self-sabotaging, do nothing death cult with a majority due to gerrymandering and decades long attack on general education quantity and availability
- Executive - trump is a convicted felon/rapist and Biden and team have all the good will in the world and they are eroding it for indefensible Israel support.
Register and vote. Biden is an entirely different universe than trump and it's not even close. Defeat trump to save democracy and then organize/demonstrate and hold Biden to account (they actually respond to pressure from constituents at scale).
I cannot believe we are having to rely on an exit strategy from ACB
The only reason the SC hasn't ruled for a Trump immunity is that it would also be giving a green light for Biden to do whatever he wanted with impunity.
Drawing out the statute of limitations?
Waiting to see if they're backing the new dictator coming to power or putting down the narcissistic pariah who lost.
And if they say the President does have immunity before the election then Biden would be free to exercise that new "freedom" to suppress the opposition or find some other way to hamstring the new admin.
No.
Hope it burns them to ash