Why do people act like 1984 was anything other than vibes based fiction?
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it's funny because orwell was trying to throw shade on the USSR and only succeeded in describing england
i remember the half-truth going around when I was a teenager and first encountering this book, that orwell was actually writing about a system he himself was part of
it literally took until this thread for me to realise I still had never addressed that falsehood, like of course orwell didn't actually live in the USSR, but i bet most people (if asked) will still believe that to be the case - that 1984 is orwell criticising a system he previously supported/was a part of, and not a piece of fiction spun out of whole cloth
that 1984 is orwell criticising a system he previously supported/was a part of
Technically, I guess this is true if you interpret it as being a critique of . IIRC, there's nothing in the book indicating that Oceania is supposed to be a communist country, except maybe "Ingsoc", but you can easily dismiss that by saying the Nazis called themselves socialists too.
Yeah 1984 is a lot of things, but I never took it as anticommunist.
The anticommunist one is Animal farm.
They don't, their whole worldview is vibes based so it's perfectly coherent
Because anti-communism is a profitable business where you can just lie and make bank. That North Korean “defector” and all the articles written about China are examples.
I think I "studied" it 3 times in the Australian high school system (and Animal Farm)
i never like to attack orwell for being a cop, a snitch and a r*pist, but instead focus on the fact that the loser worked for the BBC and ASSUMED that the USSR would be worse and wrote a whole-ass book about his daydreaming.
working at the department of lies and propaganda sure feels like working for stalin's department of propaganda which i imagine is just like my actual job, which is evil, and therefore stalin and the whole soviet union is evil
deeply unserious person
God forbid people have fun.
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Let people enjoy things (but unironically)
Orwell probably got bullied in grade school by a football stud
George Orwell was a resentful skinnyfat redditor.
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I mean I am sure this was at least a novel observation at the time that admirably encouraged a less information rich society to think and learn more, but nowadays, and likely even back then, this complaint could serve as a snooty way for effette educated men to channel their lingering resentment toward having been excluded or bullied by the working class/popular kids at their secondary schools. It's a great line of self fellating cope for people bitter that they can't vibe or know the haps.
Someone blew my mind when they pointed out that Orwell was just writing what he knew, which was living in Britain.