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Like in terms of climate change, political climate, wars, etc. soviet-bashful

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cuba. They survived the 90's they can survive anything

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're not in the best spot climate change wise though. The DPRK would probably fare better.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I support a Cuban “Israel” project by handing them North Dakota

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Nah give them Vancouver Island.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Give them all of Florida. It's similar climate, more land, and will make gusano heads explode.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Florida is not much better off when it comes to the ongoing and growing climate crisis.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Iceland may lose some surface area due to rising seas, but warmer climates will probably create more farmland on the rich volcanic soil. They can probably maintain a modest quality of life for a very long time cut off from the rest of the world like Cuba, but without the increasing number and severity of tropical storms every year

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The gulf stream collapsing means that anything above the 30th parallel will be covered in meters of ice in a matter of years, iceland will be one of the first to fall to it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

this is complete bs by the way it's not nearly as simple as the Gulf Stream being the only factor keeping northern europe more temperate, it probably won't collapse in "a matter of years" so much as a matter of decades or centuries, and the cooling effect that has will likely be offset by other factors such as an ice-free Arctic no longer acting to limit heating of the northern oceans

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Omgv yes please i want to freeze to death instead of sweat

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

i don't think anyone has a good idea what will actually happen from that, it seems very silly to suggest it'd be worse than climes on similar latitude without a gulf stream. Russian east & Canada are cold but they aren't unlivable---and they're becoming warmer like everywhere

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

iceland's where the billionaires who are too racist for new zealand will build their bunkers, it's fucked

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

be cool if they build those bunkers over a rising mantle plume

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Iceland is full of snowy barbarians that know no civilization, hope you like running around in a loin cloth and eating stinky fish. oh and there's no shade on account that the beggards cut down all their trees, not even for anything cool just lots of boats to go get more stinky fish

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Frozen snow and ice melting has actually caused Iceland to rise a bit as an island as the weight on it decreases

So it's actually gaining land

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thinking about things out of your control all the time is going to make you stressful You are not a decision maker or a seer you can't know or control the future

Text a friend to grab a drink or watch a movie is much more useful than thinking about this thing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah that's probably right and I do try to not think too much about these things😵‍💫, but I do hope to leave my home country some day, so I need a target country to work towards in the meantime😅

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

My bet is on DPRK.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aren't all the billionaires moving to Aotearoa/NZ?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

China without a single microsecond of hesitation

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I will convert myself into a virus and then upload myself to collective humanity. After humanity has advanced enough to re-materialize me from my distributed form I will have transferred myself into our glorious future of luxury gay space communism.

Edit: This reminds me of Pham Nuwen's swarm form in the Zones of Thought trilogy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Popular Korea is eternal. Sorry China stans

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The ones that have practiced Autarky for decades. They won't have luxury, but they will weather the storm.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you mean? DPRK, Cuba, Rojava, Sentinel Island, and so forth. Pockets where people rely majorly on domestic production, even if they have trade with other countries, will be better off than countries that focus on foreign trade and production.

There are no perfectly isolated countries, but the ones that are more self-reliant will survive better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

best of luck moving to sentinel island

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

That's not what I was suggesting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I just want to vibe in the jungle but my friends keep shooting arrows at my boat :(

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

China has existed for 10,000 years so I'll go with that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Canada could win climate change.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Until the US inevitably annexes it :(

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

:uncle-sam-shining:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't tell if you are serious. The country is so far up north and more than two thirds of the people live close to the US border.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Isn't the point that global warming could make a lot more of the country liveable? Same with Russia, climate change could potentially turn frozen tundra into usable land.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

climate change could potentially turn frozen tundra into usable land.

Not really unfortunately. It will be warm enough to live there more comfortably, but the land isn't very usable compared to where people live now. Most of the tundra has very thin rocky soil and it is waterlogged and swampy. Just because it is warmer there doesn't mean the actual ground becomes like the soil farther south

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Isn’t de-thawed permafrost really good for growing food tho? Besides the y’know possible disease and shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

We don't know what's trapped inside the permafrost, as it thaws we might unleash some sort of super bacteria or even worse, the Reagan/Thatcher blood amalgam trapped beneath trapped below

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The horrors of our cyberpunk future, where the Reagan flu or Thatcher cough take you…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Idk, from a nutrients/chemical standpoint probably? The issue is that there's like an inch of two of it over bedrock, instead of feet worth of good topsoil. There just isn't enough of it to grow food on the scale we do now with current methods. Not to say any of that is technically impossible, just that it would be a massive megaproject the likes of which humanity has rarely seen

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That’s true… might happen that they pool all the permafrost earth into areas for farming. But indeed, a megaproject for the ages.

Probably the grasslands in Russia would be easier to manage. Just get a bunch of megafauna to stamp and poop around for a decade or two.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

It's not that simple. Sunlight is still an issue because that'll still limit the growing season and the soil itself is extremely poor.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

No it couldn't. The soil in the vast majority of Canada is shit/nonexistent. The good soil is in the southern parts of the country and already being farmed. The northern parts are all bedrock with a thin layer of pine needles sprinkled on top. Good luck growing anything on that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Maybe. I didn't think about this angle.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that global warming could make a lot more of the country liveable?

Global warming was melting roads in Canada like 2 years ago

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah but melty roads is a smaller issue than the apocalyptic famines anyone further south is gonna face.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

the principality of sealand

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Probably Russia

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago
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