I have to admit when I'm wrong.
I was all for Joe staying in the race, because I didn't think the Dems would coalesce around one candidate without a shit-show convention.
Now I'm glad I was wrong. Just putting it out there.
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Dude I've never been so happy to be wrong as fuck
You know what the cool thing is? Those of us who were wrong for one reason or another will actually about it. We don't pretend we were right the whole time. We don't pretend it just didn't happen.
Hindsight being what it is, I'm almost wondering if the timing was planned in advance. Biden already told us he'd be a one term president. If in 10 years they came out and said "Yeah, that was the plan from day one but we couldn't tell anyone" I would absolutely believe it.
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I'm glad everyone feels this way, I do too. I thought with Joe we had pretty solid chances of winning, but now with Kamala I think we're going to win by a lot more than Joe won by last time around.
Same here. What a pleasant surprise this whole turnaround has been. I was certainly pesimistic that the Democrats would somehow make the situation even worse, like perhaps bring Clinton back.
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Hey now, we're only halfway there. Between Biden, Hillary and likely protesters for Palestine it can still be a shit-show convention.
Though fiercely hope not.
I love how Trump's treatment of the Kurds gets a free pass from those protesters.
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Don't forget boogaloo fellas and local cops who have been taken in by some kind of propaganda and left-wing useful idiots who got all spun up on internet nonsense to think that the best way to help the Palestinians is to make sure Trump gets elected. I hope not, but the convention has the potential to be a fuckin atom bomb of colliding toxic forces.
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I got plenty of flak for suggesting Joe needed to go. The thing is, Kamala isn't a perfect candidate either but holy hell the (perceived) difference in voter attitudes is absolutely palpable. With Joe we'd have had people voting Trump just to avoid falling asleep (not supporting that at all, but the average voter operates on extremely simple heuristics).
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Just to remind everyone in 2016 people had pretty much already planned their Clinton victory parties and everyone "knew" that Trump was going to lose, the polling was so clear and Trump was such a joke. Perhaps some even took care of "more important" stuff than voting because it was so sure.
So keep your excitement to take you to the voting booths rather than letting it make you complacent.
Yea while Kamala is ahead in the polls , a frighteningly large amount of people still support 45
Even then, the error % on polls is high enough that Trump could be ahead instead.
Polls post their calculated error %. If they could be off by like 5% in either direction, then that’s what they say. And if the poll shows Trump losing by 2%, with a 5% error, that means Trump could win by 3%.
Every single reputable poll that has been published shows a Trump victory within the margin of error.
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Thanks for saying this. It's Mid-August. There are two whole months in which things can go wildly off the rails. Rather than celebrating polls in mid-August, let's take this happy energy and make plans to go to the only poll that matters -- the actual election -- and make these mid-August hopes turn into January certainty. Plan the celebrations after we win in November, to coincide with Harris taking the Oath in January.
There are two whole months in which things can go wildly off the rails.
It’s astonishing how long the US election cycle is. There’s longer until the next US election than the entire campaign here in the UK, yet it’s all I’ve heard about for the past three years.
Can you guys not just chill the fuck out?
I wish. Our politics are so exhausting.
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The polls only look good because they're so much better than they were for Biden. It's still a toss-up, because those percentages are within the margin of error of the polls. (At least, for most of the swing states.)
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I love this for him.
We're draining his power, and we cannot stop. There can be no question that this referendum on him and the culture he fosters is wrong and cannot/ will not be tolerated any longer.
Trump: “she doesn’t like Jewish people. You know it, I know it, and everybody knows it, and nobody wants to say it.”
Yeah, probably because she loves them, and everyone else as well.
If she loves Jewish people so much then why doesn't she marry 'em?? 🤪
Oh wait...
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Her husband Doug is Jewish.
Dotard Don 🤦🏽🤦♀️🤦🏻♂️
I think Trump is accustomed to thinking his spouses are lesser beings that exist only to bolster his image and serve at his pleasure, and he probably harbors deep feelings of disdain for all of them that he can't express publicly.
So for him it totally tracks to be married to a type of person that you hate.
So for him it totally tracks to be married to a type of person that you hate.
Women, for example
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Hey Donnie, you remember those “fine people on both sides” in Charlottesville? What were they chanting exactly?
Fucking asshole
As much as I'd like to celebrate, I can only think about how the attitude was the same regarding Hillary, and we all saw how that turned out. Fingers crossed.
People hated Hillary though. I know everyone who liked her wanted to say it was sexism but the Clinton's are fucking crooks. I don't like that Kamala put a bunch of people in prison for weed but there isn't any evidence that she killed people for political gain.
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It's all in the clock
80 days until election day
70 days until early voting starts in Michigan
66 days until early voting starts in Wisconsin
61 days until early voting starts in North Carolina
45 days until the vice-presidential debate
30 days until early ballot drop off starts in Pennsylvania
24 days until the first presidential debate
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has no idea what has hit him
well it ain't a bullet that's for sure
Six days ago, The New York Times ran a story under the headline “Inside the Worst Three Weeks of Donald Trump’s 2024 Campaign.”
You know things are bad when the worst three weeks are after an attempted assassination.
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Is there a greater douchebag in this world than Donald Trump? What an idiot.
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Before anyone starts getting a bit too high off their own supply Harris's polling averages peaked on August 12th. They were stagnant or declining on the 13th and 14th, briefly spiked on the 15th, and that spike was completely undone on the 16th. Today is dropping again. Not big drops, like 1/10th of a point every other day(which day depends on which conglomerates you use), but the growth trend is over.
Agreeing that it is wise to not grow overconfident.
We still are far from winning this battle.
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Watch out, this may mean he's going to take the low road a cheat. Regardless VOTE!!!
Of fucking course Trump is going to cheat! In fact, his MAGA flying monkeys are cheating now, as we speak. The Trump campaign is recruiting literally 100,000 poll "observers" (read: saboteurs) to help it cheat. "Donald Trump and the MAGA movement’s coup attempt on Jan. 6 never stopped."
The Trump campaign's main strategy for 2024 isn't to actually win votes. It's to deliberately interfere with the counting of the votes and cast so much FUD on the process that as many states as possible either won't (because they're MAGA-controlled) or can't (because there was genuinely that much disruption) certify their votes. In other words, he wants to file dozens of lawsuits challenging the results again, but manufacture valid bases for them this time. Combine that with the chaos of more Jan 6-style violence, and it's very likely he will succeed in getting a decisive number of swing states decided by the Supreme Court a la Bush v. Gore -- and not only does the Supreme Court have a MAGA majority, three of the fucking "justices" were lawyers on Bush's side in that very court case!
This is why Trump is going around telling his supporters that they won't have to vote anymore after this election, and why he doubled down on it when given the chance to walk it back. He has every intention of so thoroughly destroying Americans' trust in Federal elections that four years from now he will simply make a dictatorial decree that it is pointless to have them and he will simply remain in power indefinitely.
Trump is 100% committed to seizing power and being coronated as America's king, votes be damned.
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VOTE!! and also there is NO QUESTION his fart sniffing followers will CHEAT FOR HIM — let’s all get this through our heads NOW
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People know Trump is a genocidal white supremacist Nazi and the world isn't populated by cisgender white males.
You know, you can be a cisgender white male, and still hate Donald Trump.
Can confirm
Yup
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Angry orange will never stop flailing. Hes simply out of his depth and all the life preservers being thrown to him are just so much wet paper and about as effective
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Best part is watching him eventually get convicted. Tic tac, orange man.
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"Prices... YOU'VE BEEN BAD! Folgers! Rocky road! BABY RUTH!!!
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