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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago

Hate it when two bad bitches fight like this

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TBH, accusing a Georgian of "Russian chauvinism" is galaxy brain.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is just "zelensky is jewish so he could never facilitate nazism" type argumentation, this was addressed during the debates at the time as they were specifically centered around the invasion of Georgia

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1922/dec/testamnt/autonomy.htm

https://www.marxists.org/glossary/events/g/e.htm#georgian-incident

"I think it is unnecessary to explain this to Bolsheviks, to Communists, in greater detail. And I think that in the present instance, as far as the Georgian nation is concerned, we have a typical case in which a genuinely proletarian attitude makes profound caution, thoughtfulness and a readiness to compromise a matter of necessity for us. The Georgian [Stalin] who is neglectful of this aspect of the question, or who carelessly flings about accusations of "nationalist-socialism" (whereas he himself is a real and true "nationalist-socialist", and even a vulgar Great-Russian bully), violates, in substance, the interests of proletarian class solidarity, for nothing holds up the development and strengthening of proletarian class solidarity so much as national injustice; "offended" nationals are not sensitive to anything so much as to the feeling of equality and the violation of this equality, if only through negligence or jest- to the violation of that equality by their proletarian comrades. That is why in this case it is better to over-do rather than under-do the concessions and leniency towards the national minorities. That is why, in this case, the fundamental interest of proletarian class struggle, requires that we never adopt a formal attitude to the national question, but always take into account the specific attitude of the proletarian of the oppressed (or small) nation towards the oppressor (or great) nation."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Stalin's (and coincidentally Rosa Luxemburg's) critique of this position was that it would strengthen nationalisms of national minorities and their nationalisms would be just as hostile to socialism as Russian nationalism. In fact, this difference of positions was driven by differing experiences - Lenin worked in predominantly Russian groups and mostly fought against Russian nationalism, while Stalin worked in Caucasian branch and fought local nationalisms there.
Actual Soviet policies were a compomise between positions of Lenin and Stalin, with great linguistic and political autonomy for national republics, but with military, educational and most economic questions being decided by central authorities,

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I love how both Lenin and Stalin called the other one a lib at least once. Some things are eternal.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago

Ow my brain

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I swear to God conservapedia is an elaborate bit being done by Andy Kaufman.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

You're on my list fedposting

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't worry, next time I'm drunk I'll probably add "hexbear.net" and get IP banned

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think of you more as an infamous bit than a lib

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Beans Lettuce Tomato sandwich
beanistruss-the-planbruh-moment

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Potato potato

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The way this list is structured is enough of a joke on its own

Richard Dawkins

Yeah, pretty much

John Wayne Gacy

Throwing in a serial killer to discredit them, I guess that makes sense

Barack Hussein Obama

We're totally not racist

Adolf Hitler

michael-laugh

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Gacy was a registered democrat

It doesn’t mean much though since Bundy and Baumeister were republicans. I guess with Gacy is that he has connections to other serial killers and pedophiles who were part of a larger network, but not much tying political figures to it. Baumeister was very wealthy and a businessowner so he likely had some political connections.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He was pretty politically active actually, locally in the democratic party. But I wouldn't say he is the only democrat who loves systematic mass murder

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But I wouldn't say he is the only democrat who loves systematic mass murder

:brandon:

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Gacy: "I killed a fuck ton of people."

Joedolf Bidler: "Hold my beer."

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is fake because HUSSEIN isn't fully capitalized smh

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

There's also no "Sheik" before the name of Stalin.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

not pictured: every hexbear dot net user other than myself

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

myself

excuse you, im the only leftist here

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago

I would call Hitler a fucking lib to his face.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's no way this isn't a bit

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

Many conservatives think Hitler and Mussolini was a communist/leftist.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Trust me, it isn't.

"NO U!" is practically a staple argument of CHUDs.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

this is hilarious

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

This unironically made me laugh the fuck out way too fucking loud.

Jesus Christ, I've never seen a Hexbear post that tickled me this much.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

they didnt need to do my boys stalin-bummed and mao-wtf like this

would definitely call Hitler a lib to his face though data-laughing

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Started reading their take of the Battle of Stalingrad on there just now and they suggest that the reason the Russians won was because Stalin knew a secret Russian Orthodox way to invoke God

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Conservapedia tryna make Stalin look even more badass stalin-pipe

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorta, it's kind of a funny read because they go somewhat factual, i.e. it looks bleak, and then instead of acknowledging Nazi Germany's inability to strategize they just go with Stalin gets the mandate of heaven here

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

che-smile Yeah that's fucking stupid & pretty goddamn funny

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

I'd make an "Everyone I Don't Like Is A Liberal, A Bedtime Story" joke here, but Conservapedia likes i-am-adolf-hitler in polite company, or at the least, has critical support with criticism for him losing or not going far enough.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

wait is pz myers mainstream famous? i thought he was just a blog and some conference talks outside of his day job

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

PZ Myers was famous for a blogger. He was starting to get fairly well known, like getting thrown out of theaters showing creationist films even though he was with Richard Dawkins who went unrecognized. But especially when the "new atheist" movement went mask off with the open racism, misogyny, etc, and Myers refused to go along with it and sided with the smaller contingent that were actually pro-feminism (the sjw's) it quickly killed his rising fame. Fame which would have petered out anyway as atheism stopped being the hot internet topic. And that's also the thing to keep in mind here. Conservapedia was made and its creators were trying to become famous around the same time, when new atheism vs creationism was all the rage. Myers being on the list is just because that site is like a snapshot of what the internet gave a shit about at that time. It's a time capsule from when Myers was somewhat relevant in the discourse, when conservapedia was also attempting to become relevant.

Unlike some others on the list, Myers is most definitely a liberal though. One of the few genuinely well-meaning ones from what I could tell, one who I would like to think would be a communist if he put half as much thought into it as he does biology and atheism. For example, he loudly came down on the correct side of trans rights in every circumstance I can think of, and given his clout as a professional biologist, that was always refreshing to see. It's been a long time since I've read or even thought about him though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah i remember pharyngula. and then he did that freethoughtblogs thing for a while with a bunch of other radlb atheists.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it was always pharyngula, still is for all I know. It just moved from being hosted on scienceblogs to freethoughtblogs. Where all the queer and trans atheists migrated after the great sjw rift of "elevatorgate."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

This is my favorite part of conserveapedia

numerous attempts to derive E=mc² from first principles have failed.[3] Political pressure, however, has since made it impossible for anyone pursuing an academic career in science to even question the validity of this nonsensical equation. Simply put, E=mc² is liberal claptrap.

The formula asserts that the mass of an object, at constant energy, magically varies precisely in inverse proportion to the square of a change in the speed of light over time,[4] which violates conservation of mass and disagrees with commonsense.[5]

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Running some science blog = approximate amount of infamy as literally stuffing children’s corpses into your crawl space very-smart

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

As Marxist ideology sees Christianity as an enemy, it is unofficially satanic.

-an actual quote from the Conservapedia page on Marx

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