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So there's been a fair bit of discussion about how the ACP has bogus chapters, that they're forging signatures etc. but I want to hone in on this social media post one of their chapters made recently. The post links directly to the tweet but for posterity here's what it says:

Our group in the Bay Area encountered sidewalks that were full of garbage including needles and glass shards. We spent a few hours cleaning it up.

Now these streets are safe for use and have reopened a path to a local church.

Having looked at these pictures, I'm not buying it for a second.

Look at how all of the trash is located within that one small stretch of sidewalk. Notice how it doesn't continue over the road in the longer shot?

Notice how there's very little that is actually waste, like from food packaging or shopping or disposed paper like receipts and stuff? Instead it mostly looks like a couple of people got a few boxes of clothing, emptied the clothes across the sidewalk, threw the boxes around a bit, then took a photo of this scene before any of it could get wet or grimy, as if it happened immediately before the cleanup occurred?

I'm no specialist in this stuff but all of those clothes look completely dry and unblemished. I can't wear something white for more than half a day without getting it stained but to think that there is plenty of pristine white clothing sitting on a sidewalk for days without accumulating grime and dirt and dog piss is pretty remarkable. Any actual papers in the photo look like they've come straight out of someone's recycling bin in their office, virtually untouched and still shiny white rather than random bits of paper that have blown around and soaked up who knows what and having been torn and trodden on and ripped.

Also when an area accumulates trash, this has a flow-on effect where other people are encouraged to throw their trash in that spot too so it's very common to see accretion where old mattresses and discarded furniture starts piling up very quickly, not to mention all sorts of plastic waste. Even if nobody adds to the pile, the pile itself becomes a sort of sieve that collects the trash that blows by in the wind.

Where are all the half-empty cups, the fast food bags and packaging, the cigarette butts, and all the other typical trash that normally occurs on any street, let alone a hotspot for trash?

This shit is so astroturfed it's ridiculous. The are staging these photo ops and patting themselves on the back for achieving massive outcomes in the local community by *checks notes* picking up a couple of trash bags full of clean clothes that were left on one small section of sidewalk. Idk who they are trying to convince here.

Here's a screenshot of full tweet for archiving purposes:

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A right wing party pretending to be communists? Hmm where have I seen that one before?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago

I like how they add in the path is cleaned now to lead to a CHURCH. Like c'mon you had to put in that little turd to appeal to Christian fascists, didn't you?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh hey I recognize one of those faces as a closet neo-nazi

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They don't recognize all of them, presumably

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Yeah pretty much. I can namedrop one but haven't seen the others

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I could buy an explanation that there was previously an unhoused encampment on this corner and this is all the junk that got left behind when the cops rounded them up.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Possibly, but all of this looks so clean and it's almost all clothing.

If it's the remnants of a camp, where are all the lighters and where is all the evidence of food containers/packaging and water bottles? Where's all the bedding and the tarps? Not to stereotype but which camp doesn't have a fair share of cigarette butts, alcohol containers, and paraphernalia? (Not intending to judge here - if I was homeless then I'd absolutely be using alcohol & other drugs to cope, and if all I could get was a cigarette or two or maybe some speed then I'd have no hesitation about using that to suppress my appetite.)

You might be right but it just looks so homogenous, so clean and unjumbled. It makes me think that it has either been there for less than 24 hours or something fishy is going on with it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh I know I’m not right. I’m just mad that the the-pigs are rounding people up.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even worse if they're bragging about throwing homeless people's stuff away.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wonder who might be the ones calling the pigs to rat out homeless people? 🤔🤔

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I forgot about that, Haz actually managed to have a worse take than "eating McDonald's is culturally communist".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You'll be happy to know they know openly support landleeches and petty-bourgeois small business tyrants and want their members to become landed gentry to fund their ~~scam~~party

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

geordi-no Homeless people? Landleeches all of them. Mao their asses.

geordi-yesActual landleeches? Upstanding citizens, let's become some ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

These tweets... these are bits, right?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you can figure out what street they're on you could look in Google Street View to see how much trash was in the area previously.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

There isn't a lot in the pictures to help figure out what street it is.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

to add to your points: no fucking way this tiny-ass mess took five people (someone is presumably taking the photo) hours to clean up. i've had roommates leave more trash behind than this. you could take care of most of the "mess" here with a push broom in 15-20 minutes at most.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

I hope one of these "people" gets stabbed by a used needle

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

I don't know much about these people, but I have seen areas that get lots of trash accumulation like this where it doesn't extend to other places -- these are usually closed donation centres. Like, an old Goodwill or something (note the large shipping door right there too). People just dump stuff, and then it sits there while the place is actually closed, even if it was just a weekend or something.

I'm being extremely generous here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

why would they take the time to litter a street, and then clean it, when they could just clean an already littered street?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Takes even less to trash a clean street and swap the before and after photos.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So I take it the ACP is like the current Russian Communist Party, minus the appealing to Soviet nostalgia?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Not remotely close, it's a collection of petty bourgeois failures who's ideological position is an incoherent mess of straight fascism, Strasserite fascism, nazbol fascism, maoist fascism, larouchite fascism, and probably some other internet strains of fascism.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not even that, it's a bunch of streamers larping

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Lmao god damn

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I give them like six months before theyre filming themselves cleanup homeless camps with axes