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[–] [email protected] 175 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Countries ranked in descending order by number of school shootings from 2009-2018:

  • United States: 288
  • Mexico: 8
  • South Africa: 6
  • Afghanistan: 3
  • Brazil, Canada, France: 2
  • Azerbaijan, China, Estonia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Kenya, Russia, Turkey: 1

One of these is not like the others. This isn't exactly a fact of life in other parts of the world.

Source

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 months ago

“‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens”

[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 months ago (2 children)
  1. Force unwanted children into this world
  2. Give no childcare support
  3. Send them to underfunded schools
  4. Offer no mental healthcare programs
  5. Make guns readily available
  6. "Facts of life"
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I believe the assumption is this only applies to brown children. H'wite childrens obviously go to private school and have top tier medical care.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't have any stats on this, but when I think of a school shooter, I think of a white kid.

Maybe that's why there's so much tolerance for them. Boys will be boys.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

this only applies to brown children

No. It applies to poor children. While it's true that poor children are more likely to be Brown, but it's really the poor that's the factor in this case.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump gets shot at and the country says there is no room for political violence, we wish him well. Children get shot every single day, that’s just a matter of life, child-sized coffin sales sky-rocket.

But really, why aren’t more politicians being shot? I think if they were the targets instead of innocent children, gun reform would be both swift and severe.

Now, I’m not saying that political violence is acceptable, but I’m certainly not not saying it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Becauss the people who go out and try to solve their problems with violence on a scale that would give us that pattern are the republican base. There are plenty of examples outside of that group, obviously, but even the guy who tried to shoot Trump had been a republican until very shortly before the attempt.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Children get slaughtered en masse in their classrooms: 😴

A drag queen reads a children's book to children: 😡

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The state of everything is so fucked for my brain to even go this direction... But your comment made me think the following:

Well, in their (the conservative's) heads, yes. A dead kid isn't one that will grow up and eventually vote against them and their hateful ideologies after being around the same things that conservatives demonize.

Edit: Not implying that conservatives want children dead. (That is clearly not the case given their stance on contraception and women's reproductive rights.) But, that they don't care about kids dying to gun's, because "MUh 2nD amendmEnT RigHTS shAn't be INFRIngeD uPoN", and that they view children that have attended these drag events as having been indoctrinated and mentally harmed/abused. That scares them more.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Comedian Geoffrey Asmus said something like, "I don't understand why Republicans are anti-abortion. Isn't abortion just dead liberals?"

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago

Notice how Vance and the other right-wing pricks don't apply the same reasoning to abortion. Nope, in THAT case they can come up with law after law after law to address the issue. When it comes to the lives of children already here? Pfffttt... perish the thought and the child.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, in the United States. Not in other western countries. Wonder why, JD? Maybe because it's a "fact of life" that's created and sustained by people like you...

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago

Conservatism is a deadly cancer that needs to be eradicated to save humanity. There is no place in a modern culture for toxic, hate-based ideologies like conservatism. That's just a fact of life.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago

JD Vance is a couch fucking sociopath.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago

School shootings (and JD Vance) are symptoms of a diseased society.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, no it isn't.

-residents of like 98% of the rest of the world

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

A fact of American life because of idiotic gun policy.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

Just as natural as love between a man and a couch.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

.... in America. Fixed that for you

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, so logically GOP presidential candidate shooting are also. Thoughts & prayers & get over it and all that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They might end up regretting all that gun support.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Funnily enough, this how he conveyed that message:

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Quick and dirty:

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

I see some room in the back. 🤷‍♂️

[–] solsangraal 9 points 2 months ago

imagine signing up for a career where your job is to take bullets for fucking couchfucker

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

They don't provide the same level of protection to the school children.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“You cat ladies just need to make more babies to replace the children killed by gunfire in schools,” said the not insane guy who wants to rule the country and women’s bodies under Project 2025.

Jokes aside, Trump is clearly falling apart. The Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society have gone all-in on Vance. He’s the real would-be dictator. Once elections become rigged at the federal level, he will be President and your vote won’t matter.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

at a time like this, a leader should use their pulpit to rally people, make them believe in progress, and cushion the blow.

this guy just blows the cushion.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Fact of American life.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

So are corrupt, do nothing, hot air spewing politicians. Weird coincidence?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

How about this.

Take JD Vance saying that this is just a "fact of life" and start playing that on political ads all over Georgia. I don't like the idea of exploiting tragedy for political purposes but I think people who are considering voting for this waste of oxygen should know that he considers their kids nothing more than collateral damage.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

This can only improve Harris's odds in Georgia, right? I mean this certainly a renewed sense of purpose to turn out and vote for Georgian Democrats who we know if they turn out they win.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

I'd say "what the fuck" but I'm not even surprised that he said this. Bro is scum.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He's unfortunately correct. For the wrong reason tho

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

It is an inherent part of US life. But the rest of the world is proving that it is definitely not part of life in general.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So lets issue all the students guns?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Just give all the kids a few nukes.
If Mutually Assured Destruction works for international relations, surely this works for schools.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can... you do something about it?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They have a comprehensive two-pronged approach, they start with thoughts and immediately follow up with prayers, but for the sake of efficiency, they don't actually think or pray.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

So my take away here is that JD Couchfucker here is saying neither he or Trump are powerful enough to do anything. Is that really the message you want to be sending during your campaign for the highest office in America?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

"Fact of life", Shay Dee Vance is a mentally underdeveloped humanoid. Another, "fact of life" - there is a lot of profit and money to grease politician's hands in those look-alike military gun sales for LARPERS.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Queue the 1980s TV "Facts of Life" theme song parodies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

JDV is a scumback prick. That's just a fact of life. Our country is an anomaly among developed nations and there's absolutely no way to change it. Just wait until a school shooting happens where one of these assholes sends their kids. Will it still be a fact of life?

Jk. None of these pricks send their kids anywhere where these things happen.

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