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We have definitely been transported to an alternate universe

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The GOP has used the threat of a government shutdown many times to hold this country hostage. And when it comes to remembering who's at fault for it, most of the U.S. electorate has the memory of a crack-addled ferret. But if you have a government shutdown THIS close to an election, some of them just might remember who caused it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Is she trying to break out?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Probably realizing she won't get elected, and trying to seem reasonable to voters 🤣

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Now we'll really be in an alternate universe if this makes her either flip to dem or just quit altogether

[–] [email protected] 194 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Really wild to see MTG appear to be on the correct side twice in a week. I wonder what the goal of the party is aside from distancing themselves from a losing candidate.

[–] [email protected] 168 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (14 children)

I think she woke up and realized a government shutdown right before an election caused by ineffectual republican leadership might hurt them in the down-ballot. Or we woke up Sunday on the next timeline because the earth exploded, and everyone died Saturday night. It's been a crazy week and it's only Tuesday.

Edit: looks like a shutdown before the election due to ineffectual republican leadership is back on the menu boys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I must have slept through it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 27 minutes ago

It appears you CAN spell Jesus without "us".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

It makes logical sense for a person to draw this conclusion, but MTG is famously an idiot, so that’s what’s baffling. What convinced her to change her tune?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

The checks stopped clearing?

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I mean yeah that's sound political strategy, but you're telling me MTG woke up and possessed the self reflection necessary to realize that?

I think it's more believable that we all died.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Mitch McConnell made a statement of how stupid and damaging a shutdown would be for them. I would bet she is just listening to the wise turtle.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Basically this - conservatives are great at understanding problems, once the problems affect them personally

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Tell that to the MAGA working class

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Clarification : it has to impinge directly on their ego.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think this is absolutely the correct interpretation of this. Shutting down the government because repubs don't want to play ball weeks before an election is only likely to hurt their chances.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but they do this every election year, and their supporters never care

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They don't until their social security checks stop flowing.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Or she's jealous that someone else is fucking Trump so she's causing problems.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Putin said he wants Harris to win, she took that literally 😂

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

haha. beautiful

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

She might've been hit by a stray neutrino or something? Flipped a random bit?

[–] solsangraal 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

LOL how many bits is MTGOS anyway...

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Pretty hopeful news actually.

MTG is among the most seemingly dedicated to being a horrible, bigoted piece of shit, and yet even she is recognizing that a platform of being a horrible, bigoted piece of shit is no longer serving her.

Fuck her forever. But I'll take this specific brand of opportunism as a positive sign.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

No it is happening because it is close to the election. Would be fucking wild to yet again convincingly prove they are incapable of governance while just weeks away. Even this hollering gibbon can see that. Any other time she would be doing the usual racist MAGA bullshit and refusing to cooperate.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ill be honest, ill take it. But im so confused right now.... is this how progress is supposed to happen? Its been so long. I didnt draw the line, they did, and still here we are. At something reasonable?

Still. I must reiterate, fuck mtg, but... support her this time? Fuck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think her deal is being outrageous, and the republican party has been pretty outrageous as of late, meaning she's nothing special anymore. So, she's just doing whatever gets attention now.

Edit: read the article. She's giving the whole game away. She must be MAD.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

This is the difference between a normal racist and a high functioning racist that knows a failed state can't effectively oppress the people.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 days ago (2 children)

MTG hasn't suddenly grown a ethocortical gland. She's getting polling numbers that scare her, and she wants to win reelection. Georgia is turning purple for a variety of reasons, and a government shut down would be bad for her campaign.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I haven't seen polling specifically for her district but, while Georgia is very purple (and has been since like 2014), her district is gerrymandered to hell and back to not be anything other than red. I think I saw that it's one of the deepest red districts in the country.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She's seeing the potential writing on the wall and is attempting to come across as moderate all of a sudden so that when the Republican party purge of MAGA begins, she can hopefully be overlooked by it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

This isn’t what she’s trying to do. Instead of trying to blend in with moderates, she represents a radical and extremist part of the party that she wants to paint as the true moderates in order to leverage the opinion of the republicans upon Trump’s reelection.

The stance of tearing down speakers of the house is not new, she has railed against every speaker of the house this term for not enacting her extremist policies. What she is doing is trying to force the republican party’s hand to become more extremist because they can’t get over the line to win anything as a party without the extremists supporting them.

I fear that many people don’t understand this move from her but it’s clear if you’ve been paying attention. The point is to sell out the rest of the party that does not side with her. Her philosophy is “MAGA party or no party” and she has a small group of 5-10 allies that also believe this. If Trump loses, the party splits along these lines. If he wins, this fascist group will suddenly represent the whole party. That’s the bet she’s making.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Her voter base of Joe Rednecks don't have a passport, and stopped paying attention to the wherabouts of their birth certificate once it got them their first gun.

Voter suppression suddenly doesn't feel so good, when it puts your seat on the line...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

Honestly this might not even be that far off. I could see a lot of people opposing requiring presenting documents to vote because they don't want the government to be able to track them.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That was a great explanation.

I remember hearing an interview with John Boehner on NPR (former Republican Speaker of the House) a few years ago. He was talking about the government shutdown that happened shortly after far right wing was elected in 2010. Apparently, a few of them barged into his office after the shutdown and demanded to know why the government had actually shut down.

And Boehner was like, "Um...you said you wanted it to?"

And the right wingers said, "Well we didn't think it would work!"

These are irresponsible people who think they should just get to play games in life.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

--Jean-Paul Sartre

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

And the right wingers said, "Well we didn't think it would work!"

I recall a number of voters who voted in favor of Brexit who were interviewed and said things like "but I didn't think it would actually happen!"

I also seem to recall a similar sentiment in a case where people voted to strip funding from a local library in Michigan, then were shocked when the library had to close.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wow. He really nailed it in a very simple way. Nice job.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Jeff Jackson is amazing. He’s not my representative, but he’s running for state wide office(Attorney General, N.C.) this year. Don’t be surprised if you see more of him.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Never give them what they want in exchange for them doing the bare minimum. The Dems just need to send flyers to government workers whose representatives got them furloughed.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Either there's writing on a wall or she got hit by a brontosaurus bone and thinks she's a functioning Congressional member...

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seems like we've reached the point where most voters realize that virtually all government shutdowns have been the Republicans' fault.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago

It’s probably because preceding each shutdown they loudly proclaim that they will shut down the government and blame the dems… and then they do…

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Something smells fucky. She's in a gerrymandered district so re-election isn't a concerned. Presumably Trump is in too much of a froth to realize this might be a political mistake and would love the theatrically of it. It will fire up the base and keep immigration central in the election discourse.

I don't quite get it. But my speculation is that this is an early volley and positioning to try to get rid of Johnson soon by 1) calling him out and making him look weak, 2) forcing him to capitulate to the democrats "just like she said he would," and 3) or he doesn't work with the dems, and then she's tied him more concretely to the government shutdown. Following this, I assume the crazy crew will start undermining him in the media, and then they'll eventually vote to try to get him removed and install one of the crazy crew.

She is absolutely too rabid to be doing this for civic-minded reasons, so something has to be going on.

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