He’s in prison now, right?
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i believe it'd be reasonably covered by freedom of speech
They’re the “anti-vaxxers” of politics. Like those who have lived in a world for such a long time without the death toll faced by people pre-modern medicine then complain about having to get vaccinated the people that seek political upheaval and want a dictator never faced living in a country run by a dictator and all the problems that go with it. So tossing out ideas to start a fascist regime are the same as being anti-vax, they’ve never lost children and parents to diseases that vaccines would have prevented over a lifetime, they’ve never had family and friends picked up by State political police, beaten, disappeared or jailed because of something they said or because a neighbor turned them in for something.
Exactly this.
Based on my 2020 experience, seeing people whining about not being able to go to Olive Garden, I am pretty sure that the keyboard warriors are not prepared for the inconvenience of living in a war zone.
It reminds me of Mike Tyson's quote,
Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.
I think what's happening is that many people live in a bubble, believing it's okay to say anything because they have "freedom of speech."
But in reality, they don’t have the guts to insult someone to their face, let alone threaten them with assassination.
in the fathe
It's like the will to power but triggered by boredom and misplaced dissatisfaction with the status quo. Back in the day these would be people saying that this generation needs a war (this is before proxy wars and remote warfare)
i mean, i think anyone who assassinated trump would be a hero too. it really isn't crossing the line and shouldn't be. it's just exchanging ideas.
he said he'd be a dictator on day one. If nobody manages to kill trump its proof that the 2nd amendment doesn't work.
Murder is definitely crossing a line. The line is called "murder" and you cross it when you assassinate someone.
Is it different if they are trying to have you killed? Like am I allowed to hunt my hunters?
sure but just saying "that assassin is a hero" isn't.
They have no idea what all these words mean. It's embarrassing. Their tweets read like an edgy teenager discovering instant messaging
Did they check on elon musk as well?
Yes actually. They opened an investigation.
Maybe Elon is getting to me, but ... what compels assholes like this to say things like this and not do it themselves? I guess they need to keep away from actually doing it so that they can later claim they never were the ones to do it and that their joke statement was taken out of context.
I think being a coward is part of the persona
It's much easier to talk mad shit online when you've grown accustomed to the idea that there are no consequences for anything you say. They're perfectly happy to let the consequences of doing fall to someone else.
Now do Elon.
Judging from the amount of kids he's got, I think Elon's been "done" enough.
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Ffs, America. You're not well, are you?
I mean when Trump was shot at, people here had a quite similar sentiment.
Also all the "violence is not part of american political culture" hurrdurrs of politicians and celebrities afterwards are just completely false. Violence and political violence are an integral part of American culture. I think no other country had as many successful and attempted assassinations of their presidents.
I don't think political violence is all that uncommon in the world. Since the 19th century Japan's had 7 out of 64 PMs assassinated with another ~dozen plots or attempts.
The whole country going insane makes me feel like I'M insane, because a rational world view no longer applies.
Tbh.. When I visited Denver last week from melbourne, sadly I discovered the people there were doing better than here. It seems like a few people here have gotten far more toxic than the US.
Everyone there was super nice.
That being said though, the same kind of voter here causing things to be bad for everyone, seem to be the same as US
Denver is one of the more educated and civilized areas of the US.
It...is?
It is, provided you specifically do not look at the driving skills of the people who live there...
Denver is a liberal island in the generally quite conservative American west.
We're like the only "first world" country that has no healthcare and we have more billionaires then any other country and soon to be one trillionaire, what do you think?
more billionaires then any other country
And a crap load of people living on or under the poverty live working two or three jobs with zero PTO, crippling student debt ratios, sky high childcare costs, no family leave, and on and on. No, you don't seem well.
It's insane that you have people working multiple part time jobs totaling 40+ hr/week but still don't have employer-subsidized healthcare because employers don't have to offer it to employees working under a certain number of hours/week. And there are businesses that deliberately offer only part time jobs for that exact reason.
I'm not well versed in this but I was under the assumption that anyone who worked 32 or more hours was eligible for some kind of insurance through their employer, which is why so many people are stuck at 31 hours a week.
I'm not super well versed on it either, but yes, 30 hours or more is considered full time employment, and businesses that have 50 or more full time or full time equivalent employees are required to offer heatlhcare. But a lot of small businesses aren't going to meet the 50 employee requirement. The situation I was focusing on was a person with several different employers, none of which is required to offer health care to their employee who works for them for let's say 15 hrs/week.
Capitalism at it's finest. Working just as intended. Nothing to see here, move along, serfs.
Oh, look, someone who's different. Let's get angry at them instead!
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This is a country that's more afraid of not having a gun, than not having a doctor. We are not run by adults.
This is a nation that says you can get a license to drive a large metal death trap at insane speeds at 16, die in a war at 18, but you have to be 21 to drink the Evil Fermented No-No Juice..... and 25 to RENT a large metal death trap at insane speed
We have no idea what an adult is.
Speedrunning into insanity much?
Can I get a lol with a side of smh?
This is democracy manifest! Can't a man enjoy a succulent Chinese meal?! A succulent Chinese meal!!!
Ahh, yes. I see you know your judo well.
A Chinese meal? THEY’RE EATING THE DOGS!!
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"The FBI visited my house today for free speech acts they knew were not crimes."
Uh, calling for violence is NOT protected under the first amendment, so you can fuck right off with that.
"It is well understood that the right of free speech is not absolute at all times and under all circumstances. There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any Constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or 'fighting' words – those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality."
Wait. This means that art with lewd, obscene, or profane content is not protected?
And exactly what is "lewd, obscene, or profane" is not actually defined in the law.
Surely that's never been abused in the past. No, sir.
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My favorite part of the article is where the libertarians called Lincoln a tyrant who was rightly assassinated.
Very cool and normal.
Libertarians denounce Lincoln as a tyrant, then spill a gallon of ink praising Coolidge, Eisenhower, and Reagan for brutalizing Latin America and terrorizing American immigrant communities.
They don't give a shit about Freedom and Liberty. They're just white nationalists. They want to bring the old plantation system back.
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