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For the Trump v Biden Debate we have around 200 users chatting. For the Trump v Kamala Debate we had around 160 users. I'm not sure how many people will be interested in the VP debate.

I am playing it on this channel because the other channel uses peertube, which can potentially share your IP address to other users. This channel will not have peertube.

I will have news commentary playing in the channel before the debate and potentially after the debate as well.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

What's shocking here is that JD Vance could easily have been a Democratic pick for VP and he would have been a good one if it weren't for his stance on abortion.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Walz coming out of the gate with uncritical support for Israel's right to start World War 3. Absolute Joy Reich shit.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah gonna get a lot of ammo for dealing with him after this I think. He finally has to say stuff out loud

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I laughed out loud at the insanity of that first question tbh. "Would you support a preemptive strike on Iran? You have two minutes." agony-deep

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

Real Amerikkkan question for sure.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

smuglord "your weird sir", I say as I support genocide.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

JD just said he wanted to decommodify housing doubt

fuckyoufuckyoufuckyou!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Love how dems will just straight up lie in front of everyone and we're considered crazy for not believing them.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago

Waltz said the same thing and I definitely don't believe his ass either.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

"Politicians are all liars"

"Yes"

"Harris, Waltz, Biden and the other Dems are all career politicians"

"Sure"

"Therefore, the Democrats are also liars"

"You're just a Russian bot who wants Trump to win"

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago

I can't take this any more. They're just arguing over who can more efficiently implement a fascist vision for America. Fuck this place.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

having both candidates be able to form coherent sentences kinda takes the fun out of it huh

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago

Yeah they're being all polite and shit. I stopped listening once it was clear this would be boring.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tim Walz unity school shooters???

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

Maybe the worst gaffe to have at that moment

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Vance is crushing, honestly

And then: Walz with a mealy-mouthed closing; Vance with a strong, sharp message that you deserve a house and a square meal, and reminding you that Kamala hasn't given that to you. And those baby blue eyes. It's too bad he's evil.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah I'll be honest he's doing better than I was expecting. He's managing to not let himself get pinned down defending stupid things Trump, and even he himself has previously said, and has been fairly charismatic and articulate. Walz sounds incoherent at times, and keeps bringing up terminally-political-brained stuff without giving sufficient elaboration/context, so most normal people won't even understand what he's referring to. Vance is a piece of shit for sure, but he's surprisingly good at making Trump and himself sound palatable, if you didn't know better.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

if you didn't know better

Exactly. He's really deft at framing, esp. in giving the viewers a permission structure to support Trump, and giving assuring, flip responses while avoid being pinned on satanic GOP positions, which is leaving Walz blathering, trying to clarify.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Harris and Walz need to stop bringing up Project 2025 in debates. All they have to do is say "no I don't support that, here's what I actually support". Immediate, easy deflect into a stump speech.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Agreed. Project 2025 has always just seemed like bait to me, which the liberal media and democrats have swallowed whole. Not in the sense that it's fake or that everything in it isn't something the GOP actually wishes it could do, but that it has gotten political brain poisoned liberals to freak out constantly about some spooky opaque 1000 page document that no sane person is ever actually going to read, instead of addressing the issues average people actually care about. It just makes them sound weird and annoying.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's got the energy of a debate kid and the education of an Ivy League shithead. He struggles to appear like a normal person, not like a smarty pants fast talker.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

No wonder he's crushing at a debate then

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

WALZ SAID HE'S FRIENDS WITH SCHOOL SHOOTERS!! hahaha

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Ohhh hell nawwww! visible-disgust

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I've finally reached the point at which I understand enough about politics to not pay attention to politics.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

god i wish that was me

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

as with the kamala-trump debate, the dems are gloating about the brutality of their border policy while the fascists accuse them of not being brutal enough. americans' blood lust is insatiable

thankfully i apparently missed the part about palestine

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

the-democrats have to stop trying to make "politics of joy" a thing

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sounds like Walz got ez clapped.

But it still pisses me off they use “joy” and not “optimism”. The former just reeks of self-infantilization.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Cackling as Walz is dropping spaghetti trying to evade his fib that he embellished his Trot credibility by being at a very terrible Tiananmen Square protest.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lmao the questions seem to be weirdly pro-Trump for CNN. There's this question about calling Walz out on a lie about going to China during Tianamen Square. Kinda just bizarre.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

It was funny how when he "answered" the question it sounded more like he was getting defensive about going to China at all, rather than just saying "well damn I guess I forgot the exact details of something that happened 35 years ago" even when they asked for clarification, he just kind of reiterated the original claim that he was there during the protests lol.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

~whatever~ ~man~ ~this~ ~shit's~ ~boring,~ ~who~ ~cares~ lario-3

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That sounded mean after I posted it, I hope everyone that cares about this has fun

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's less about caring about it and more about experiencing this vile shit with comrades

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"Mom, I want the Biden-Trump sons debate!"

Mom: "We have the sons debate at home"

The sons debate at home:

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

I'm going to do sudoku in the battle box. whywhywhywhywhy

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Why can't they just cut the civility shit, I want to hear them shout insults.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

off to a strong start with a hitler-off on palestine (walz won't even say the word 'palestinian' lol)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My prediction of how it will look, coming back for a summary a few hours from now:

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

WNBA playoffs are on tonight. Anyone who watches the debate over Aces v Liberty is a fuckin dweeb

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Walz is cooked

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Excited to realize Walz is absolute shit and abandon all hope for 2025

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not to be rude, but how do you have any hope for 2025 still?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hope springs eternal.

But I feel like it gets extinguished earlier every year.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

go back and read the minnesotans talking about him on here back when he got the nod, he's shit

less bad than kamala maybe but its not a high bar

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

They're having a mid-off

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