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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

As based as this would be, I know that it won’t be worth it because fascists will have their golden opportunity to ethnically cleanse the south and turn the hyperborean republic of Dixie into a white ethnostate.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The hope is mostly that if the us collapses it will remove pressure from the rest of the world and the global south will be able to fix at least some of the problems america created. All of us in america will be fucked, but hopefully the rest of the world will be able to take action once the american boot is off their neck.

Pretty grim regardless.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

All of us in america will be fucked,

I'd argue you're all fucked sooner or later tbh (considering the sheer bipartisan derangement, militarized police, and that cartoonish debt). At least if the US collapses- not only will the entire rest of the world be better off (provided elements within the regime don't fire off the nukes), but the rest of the world will be able to intervene.

Also IMO considering the horrors the US has ushered in for its entire ugly almost-250-year history, the entire world should see to it that the US never re-constitutes itself once it collapses. What better way to do it than by militarily occupying (to de-Nazify) the entire country, restoring governance to local and particularly indigenous peoples, and turning the entire place into a UN mandate until such governance is stable?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t think any nation has the ability or the political will to entirely occupy the continental United States.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Fair enough, and this is a good reason why I think that if any of us can afford it, look into an exit strategy.

Best case scenario, as many of us are somewhere else before it all comes crashing down.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm curious as to what states (or fragments of states) would immediately get annexed by other states in brutal regional conflicts of one sort or another.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The federal government, under the current Democrat-led regime, has utterly failed, and continues to fail, in a suspicious manner, in its absolute duty to adequately protect the Republican nominee for president

Somehow the Secret Service's fuckups are Biden's fault.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, Biden did install a former PepsiCo security exec to run the SS. But more than that also, admittedly, fuck Genocide Joe, I'm aware and unconcerned that I have a bias but may AmeriKKKa burn to the ground. Nazi infighting is good infighting

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In that case (extremely) critical support to Genocide Joe for weakening the Secret Service and allowing openings for people to take shots at the ghouls.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

please purge the entire SS and bring in the failson replacements please America timmy-pray

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

in all fairness, she kept PepsiCo around even given Coca-Cola's long history with running death squads

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is because the Secret Service is full of Far-Left granola eating Maoists. Joe Biden will not allow the Real True President access to a security detail composed entirely of the Navy Seals that killed Osama Bin Laden under President Bush.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

They old now. Got nothing against the rich, nubile twitch reflexes of the FPS-addled corn-fed ilk of today's trump ops. If crooks didn't shooks he woulda domed the whole overwatch detail whamblamkazooy. Can't say about pops for certain.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's funny, but wake me when it passes.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago

Yeah if this hasn't passed yet it's meaningless. Lots of dumbass legislation is submitted, it means nothing unless it goes somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

it's a resolution. those don't mean anything anyway

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

bruh this is stupid by the Republicans and going nowhere. Assassination attempts have never mattered for whether or not the 'election is valid,' and usually under a more competent candidate surviving an assassination attempt is an active boon for the campaign (ask Tedward Roosevelt, though he still lost to WIILLSOOOONN).

They should've gone with challenging the Kamala palace coup overriding the primary results for Biden without 25th amendmenting the prez first. There's surely some fuckery with that which could be exploited by their ghoulish megacorp lawyers (which will be fought by the Democrats' more different ghoulish megacorp lawyers

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's surely some fuckery with that which could be exploited by their ghoulish megacorp lawyers

Not really. All of that happened before the DNC and before state filing deadlines, so Biden was in no way the nominee. And a democratic primary has never been a requirement. The Democratic Party even successfully argued such in court in relation to the 2016 primaries.

They can try but they’d have absolutely no legal basis.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

certainly more basis than "but my guy was shot at! " kitty-cri-screm

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Assassination attempts have never mattered for whether or not the 'election is valid,'

Nobody in the VP slot is named Johnson, so I don't see what the problem is.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

yeah but that was a normal ascension after their ticket had already won.

ngl it would be very funny to have a president Vance lmao. But honestly it might just be all the neocon ghouls around him doing whatever they want and be extra terrible and not as funny because he clearly has zero spine whatsoever in addition to no acumen or direction or competence. At least Trump is a bully and a self-aggrandizing manchild and so forcefully asserts himself in everything (often to the detriment of said 'thing') and fires people at the drop of a hat.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

and fires people at the drop of a hat

He's actually quite a known coward about directly firing people when it isn't some TV show. He delegated firing declarations to others throughout his regime.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did they even film the firing while the candidate was in the room? I thought I read somewhere that he does the "You're Fired" thing into the camera as B-roll and they just chop it in for effect.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

I heard that too but wasn't sure it was confirmed.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

That's just bad writing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The distant relative of Todd Bonzalez

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Nah more like Putsch Rodríguez and his associates, Pablo Opperthrau, Coló Revelución, and Cia Popet.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

Admittedly, based. C'mon, balkanize already! Kill each other! sit-back-and-enjoy

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

Drone strike the west virginia legislature while it's in session, cowards, you won't.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Be it resolved that poopoo peepee

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

whereass pee pee poo poo

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

some bullshit in west virginia is about to spark a civil war

what century is this?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Hell yeah. The judicial commity is holding in their hands the greatest joke of the 21st century

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

They are already coping lol

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Read this in a foghorn leghorn southern dandy voice

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

WV siding against the Union this time around, very interesting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i hope a part of the state secedes over this. infinite virginias!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that getting a Dem in might be the better accelerationist move since lib states would never do something like this with Mr cheeto

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, how can non eligible people even vote in US?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They can't. This is just conspiracy theory nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I thought so. Though why they are even doing so, i would suspect in the "most democratic country" people at least voted themselves so they know how it looks. In Poland anyone claiming that would be ridiculed because everyone is on the list, you need to show the documents and sign to get the card.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Years of fascist propaganda. Republicans have been explaining away their losses by blaming it on widespread voter fraud for a while now. Typically they claim illegal immigrants are allowed to vote, and that democrats submit fake votes from dead people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if there was widespread election fraud but I don't think it's the local unregistered migrants voting for 99 percent Hitler

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In 2020 there were something like 600 confirmed voter fraud cases in the states that Trump was contesting. There is possibly rigging going on behind the scenes as electronic voting machines have been repeatedly shown to have massive security vulnerabilities, but the fact the republicans aren't pushing to go back to paper suggests that if there is real voting fraud, they're fine with it.

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