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[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

*Good night

[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

There's a pretty good amount of people still using it, it seems.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I feel pretty comfortable saying that was the last good one, perhaps the best one, and it’s been downhill ever since.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 month ago (23 children)

It hasn't been steadily downhill. There was a plunge downwards with Windows 8, then 8.1 recovered a little and 10 more, before Windows 11 undid the gains.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Windows 7 recovered from the disaster of Vista. Windows XP recovered from Me. It has been a bumpy ride for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Windows 7 was just vista with dipping sauce.

By the time 7 came out Vista was fine. Vista was the usual bugs of a new OS, plus the new drivers which most manufactures decided to not do properly so they made Vista look much worse than it actually was. The much higher system requirements really didn't help.

If you bought a new machine with hardware that came out post Vista's launch you probably had a good experience with Vista. I personally had 0 issues with my machine in 2008.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Vista paved the way for Win7 by highlighting the abysmal driver and support issues. Which got significant work done on it so by the time Win 7 acme out things were in a good state.

Vista was, much like ME, was a decent OS hampered by its time and hardware, but have been meme'd into festering shitpiles.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Vista shows how important the initial reputation is. Everybody had made up their mind to hate it, even if the hate wasn’t fully justified. There wasn’t much Microsoft could do about it, other than releasing Windows 7.

Windows 8 on the other hand was genuinely bad.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As long as recall is a thing I will never move to 11. I'll move to Linux.

I hate Microsuck for this. I just want to come home from work and have my PC work not have to play IT guy whenever Linux acts up. :(

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Yep, I've said this before.

Windows 7 was the last great OS by microsoft.

It was light enough to not be a bother on even used hardware.

It was exceedingly stable and didnt need regular reformat and reinstalls like all previous windows OS's.

Didnt need to be constantly rebooted every time you exited a big task like previous Windows.

and you were able to do pretty much anything on it easily and without much fuss.

and, outside of like driver installs, the OS pretty much stayed out of your way.

It was brilliant. It was the best.

It was the peak of the curve. 3.11/95/98/ME/NT/XP all built up to 7, and 8/10/11 are all falling further and further away from 7.

The only reason to get rid of windows 7 is that there was no further way to monetize it since it had pretty good market saturation. If it wasnt for that Win7 would probably be the default OS for another 10+ years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

3.11/95/98/ME/NT/XP

How badly did Vista hurt you?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (6 children)

https://time.com/12854/microsoft-to-take-windows-xp-off-life-support-despite-its-29-market-share/

XP was a whopping 29% at EOL which is impressive to me that 7 is only 3%. But it makes sense that 10 has such a large market share since it was free and ran on (almost) everything that ran 7.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I think a large part of it is how most of the machines that could run 7 can run everything after 7 (maybe just need more RAM), but many many MANY machines running XP couldn’t move forward because the CPU or the integrated graphics just couldn’t take it.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

this is full EOL not like normal user EOL, normal user EOL ended in 2020.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OK guys, guess it's time to upgrade to Windows 8. I bet it'll be great!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

could give Linux a try. Its come along way, even if you're a gamer.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

OK guys, time to upgrade to Redhat 6 from 1999. I bet it'll be great! It has Kernel 2.2, and I'm hearing good things about the upgrade to ipchains from ipfwadm!

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago (7 children)

They told me Windows 10 was the last Windows and I intend to make them fulfill that promise. And when I fail to make them fulfill their promise, I will keep it for myself.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

/sigh at this point i feel like “that guy” but M$ didnt say 10 would be the last Microsoft, a specific employee said it in a specific situation, that in context was pretty obviously “latest” and not “final”.

The internet just took that one line and ran with it, as they are known to do.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

/sigh, I barely use it, and when I do, it pisses me off. I'll try to remember this anyway, thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I feel Microsoft is in for a huge surprise when they end support for all versions of Windows except one that requires you to throw out your old hardware. At the same time, Linux is better than it’s ever been and is almost, if not just as easy to use as Windows. Not to mention, most work is done from a browser these days.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I'm going to say there's a 10% chance Windows 11 gets BIOS support (or rather drops UEFI requirement) and drops TPM/SecureBoot requirement in the next three years. I think that's more likely than extending Windows 10 longer.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What you mean ended? It was just released the other day...

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There was official support for Windows 7?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Only the embedded variety meant to run on machines like ATMs, POS systems and other long term support machines.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Well, plus all the other versions too, but embedded especially in this case

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aww, that's the last version of windows I ever owned.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think I've ever owned any version of Windows.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Technically nobody else has either.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, Microsoft has at least.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Windows 7 still has a similar market share to desktop Linux. I suspect that some of those users are holdouts, rejecting the Cortana nonsense but too stubborn or lazy to switch. But I'd also wager that, in the longer term, a decent portion of that 3% ends up on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

But I’d also wager that, in the longer term, a decent portion of that 3% ends up on Linux.

Or they just continue to use their out of date OS. XP still has a 0.6% market share, and I have no idea what remotely modern software works on XP. Browsing the modern web will be a pain with the new encryption standards.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

At least on 10 it is relatively simple to disable Cortana and forget it exists. I can't believe Microsoft is trying to make Copilot key a thing.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Lately I've been using OpenSUSE GNU/Linux and so far I've been relatively happy with. The installation process is simple and concise, and the system is rock-solid and easy to use.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One of us!

I have Leap on my homelab and Tumbleweed on my desktop and laptop for >5 years now. It's been awesome, and it's my favorite so far from >15 years of Linux.

Glad you're enjoying it! Next step: get unreasonably obsessed with chameleons.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm running Tumbleweed myself! Been very pleased overall. I believe OpenSUSE may have just cured my distro-hopping.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Opensuse is a very good and somewhat underrated choice imo

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Windows has been alternating between good and crap for decades. ME, crap. XP, good. Vista, crap. 7, good. 8/8.1, crap. 10, good…ish. 11, steaming feces. 12 will probably be at least half decent.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I doubt that will be true anymore. 12 will probably have even more spyware and ads than 11.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I really ought to switch my main pc to Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Fake news. MS said that Win 10 was the last one they were going to make so all of those others you mentioned are obviously fake.

[–] dabster291 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

10, good…ish.

Windows 10 was never really good, its launch was very rocky. Most people just stockholmed their way into liking 10.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

POSReady

Hehe

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

I have an old ASUS laptop with a 670M on Windows 7, any prayer the jump to Linux for drivers will be smooth? 🤞

I have an i914900KF desktop on windows 11 (I have to use it) and loathe the OS lol. Definitely wish there were programs for chopping down Windows 11 spyware crap.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago
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