If it weren't mainly a rural vs. urban split, I'd be all for the fascists getting their own country to ruin. But we're too spread out to make it feasible.
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Greene on Monday described these actions as a threat against Trump's "mandate."
That mandate calls for actions Democratic states must accept, Greene argued, such as the mass deportation of "illegal invaders" and preventing trans children from playing sports.
The funny thing is that MTG is getting less and less of a "mandate" from GA-14 for all of her crap: In 2020 she got 74.6 percent of the vote, in 2022 she got 65.9, and in 2024 she got 64.4. Keep it up Marge.
Still way, way, way too high for a white supremacist goblin in human form to get.
A republican flip flopping on states rights again? I'm shocked.
How is it not illegal for her to say these things? Like is that a threat against the United States?
Depends.
Protected by the first amendment, one can legally advocate for the dissolution of the Union through bicameral ratification outlined constitutionally. To advocate for armed insurrection or violent overthrow of the federal government is sedition and considered quite illegal.
Is it really illegal if the law isn't enforced? Is anything a Republican does illegal anymore?
I've always loved this quote about conservatism:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition: there must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
- Francis M. Wilhoit
Honestly, with what I'm genuinely concerned is going to happen, that would probably be preferable. Give everyone some notice, and we can escape the nutjobs by being homeless in California and New York instead of concentrated in camps in Florida and Georgia. I mean, it'll inevitably make the blue state nation more conservative as they blame southern refugees for all their problems, but it'd still be better more than likely
Don't threaten me with a good time lady.
Right? The country is split basically 50. This seems like the obvious thing to do.
So they know that Texas doesn't have a GDP high enough to even run all their red catastrophies, right? I'm kidding, I know they don't know. They probably also don't know that CA would be the third largest super power if they ever let us go. Which they won't. At all.
California should secede and kick off the great (terrible) balkanization of the formerly united states
NCR & The North East republic
Vs
Yeehawistan
Californians are in an abusive relationship. Blamed for everything and not allowed to leave
And we pay them more money than we use for ourselves.
Just let us have our fires in peace damnit!
Now that I am no longer in FL and live in a blue state… cool, I like the idea but I’m not a fucking traitorous asshole to my country. When are we putting this bitch up on the gallows?
I mean... as long as California takes Colorado and New Mexico with it, I see no real issues with that. We get the economy, the nature, and the nukes.
We'll bring along Oregon and Washington, at least the west halves, and call the country the Collective of American States.
Lets go for the Fallout 2 version I want to annoy everyone.
that's not… usually what you do win you win. so like… honestly… okay, kick me out, let me be governed by a saner government. also DC is between two blue state so good luck evacuating back to your conservative safe space, dumbass
I'm literally moving to a blue state. The one good idea she had I beat her to it. Peace idiots.
Predictable. The donvict-humpers supposedly "win", and then get even MORE angry. Why so angry?
I suspect it's because for this brief period of time, anyway, it's hard for them to avoid just how HATED they and their precious golden donvict truly are. They thought they'd "win" and all the normal Americans around them would just disappear. And yet, Karens like Green continue to get confronted by normal people.
The donvict-humpers supposedly “win”, and then get even MORE angry. Why so angry?
Because we've stolen their martyrdom from them by losing.
This is outrageously anecdotal but the trumpers I know were all grins on the day after until they realized we weren’t gonna just get over this and they just labeled themselves. They seem pissy now, and one in my office in particular that used to chat with me about sports is really broken up I don’t want to anymore
They seem pissy now, and one in my office in particular that used to chat with me about sports is really broken up I don’t want to anymore
Yeah, the Professional Left did an entire section about this and they mentioned the case where some husband is completely gobsmacked that his wife filed for divorce.
But yeah, I've seen the same thing and heard about it from others. Lots of quiet interactions about how so and so is a big proponent of donvict; don't invite him/her to {whatever social function}.
The refrain of "yeah, but let's just agree to disagree" - I can see why many people, especially those most at risk thanks to what they wan, are thinking: "YEAH, FUCK THAT. You just voted to harm me, and you want to act like it's just a disagreement?"
The rest of the US doesn't deserve California's economy
California would do so much better on its own I feel like
Blue states pay more in taxes than they receive, and vice versa with red states. We are literally funding them dragging us all backwards.
What's the split on ports in blue states vs red states?
Pretty much all in Blue states - the Red states have no pacific access and lode out on the eastern megacity.
Canada has given the world some of the worst extremists, racists, etc. (Proud Boys being one of the more recent horrible things we've exported)
There's a group that popped up during the convoy called diagolon. They posted this way back which seems like how things would work (a path from Russia to Florida)
They claim it's a joke, but isn't it always just a joke.
Pretty sure BC, VA, and CO are not going along with that.
I think it still works if you swap Alberta for BC and exclude VA and CO