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Oh no, I can't believe the guy obsessed with war is a fascist

Just unapologetic white supremacism. "The are out-breeding us!"

Dan used to be decent and interesting for a liberal. Trump took office and he took a long hiatus and came back completely brain broken.

I think this is the best way to explain it to people who don’t really know much about the situation (which is like 99% of white Westerners who aren’t already pro-Palestine). It boils it down into a digestible issue - it’s either autonomy or enfranchisement, Israel is offering neither. Thus it is by definition apartheid. If someone tries to argue they do have autonomy… well this is pretty easy to prove wrong and tbh after all this I don’t think anyone is going to go back to pretending Gaza and West Bank have real autonomy. Only other option is to be like Dan here and say “then the Jewish people won’t have disproportionate control over ‘their’ country”… then at least you’re backing them into a two state solution which, still not great but it should at least break loose most of the propaganda they’ve been fed.

Dan Carlin's Hard-R History

like, if you live in america, next to a federal prison, are you like, surprised if someone breaks out? no, that'd be insane, you have to accept the nature of the carceral state in some way if you are constantly materially confronted with it.

edit: specifically, everyone near such an unstable situation as caged human beings knows that it's analogous to standing by a bomb. it will eventually go off. the question is just when, and how you've prepared yourself for it, and what happens next.

Me when I'm in "The most fascist shit ever said" contest and my opponent is a white man

Now there's a name I haven't seen in years. I thought he was relegated to the dustbin of fascists no longer useful to the right, alongside Milo and Richard Spencer.

That’s sickening. Dude was always a lib but he wasn’t in the habit of platforming people who were open white supremacists. Molyneux always had the posture of a cryptofascist while literally constantly saying openly fascist things.

I listened to a bit of his eastern front series and it was all just Westoid pop history, almost completely untempered by post cold war scholarship.

I continue to be glad I never hinged my political beliefs on the takes of any specific i n f l u e n c e r.

He's saying that the existence of settle colonialism is entirely based on the oppression and supression of the majority, and thus of course they don't want a one state solution, but that that's hecka understandable really.

We really need to resurrect Sherman and have him sent to Israel under the political command of John Brown.

He’s arguing against a one-state solution because “democracy is two wolves and one sheep deciding what’s for dinner” type bs argument. He’s saying if Israelis let Arabs vote it will no longer be a Jewish ethnostate… which if you’re feeling charitable, you could say he’s not saying that’s good that’s just him articulating what he thinks Jewish folks in Israel think. That’s kind of his “thing”, he always emphasizes trying to see things from someone else’s POV. Which works in some instances but not when people are advocating for genocide and ethnic cleansing.

You can read it charitably until the last sentence:

Ok,if they go that route then they quickly lose control of their own country via birthrates and the ballot box.

This is true. If you (correctly) see Israel as an ethnostate this is obvious.

Can you see why they might not be too enthusiastic about what to them looks like conquest via democracy?

I can understand that people who support ethnostates are racist, yes.

You may see this as morally right,but their reticence is human.

And here's where he loses me. There's nothing "human" or "natural" about racism.

He's acting like it's a legitimate country rather than an occupation force