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Friendly reminder: when commenting about a news event, especially something that just happened, please provide a source of some kind. While ideally this would be on nitter or archived, any source is preferable to none at all given.

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

President Putin, my country, America, yearns for de-Nazification.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An Israeli army spokesperson has said that Israel has attacked more than 400 “targets”, including Mosques, in the Gaza Strip in the last day.

The spokesperson Daniel Hagari said that the Mosques were being used by Hamas as meeting places, in a post on X on Tuesday morning local time.

Hagari also said that Israel had attacked Hamas’s “operational headquarters” and that it had killed three Hamas deputy commanders.

He specified several Gaza neighbourhoods that Israeli warplanes had attacked, including Jabalia. Thirty people, mostly women and children, were killed when Gaza’s Jabalia refugee camp was bombed, the civil defence unit there told Al Jazeera on Sunday.

what number was this on the list? "yeah we're attacking mosques, but they were hamas mosques"

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

altGreta Thunberg, playing for team Palestine, is throwing down a thunderous dunk on Amy Schumer crying and cowering below. Schumer is on the “iSSrael” squad.

The basketball is an octopus plushie with a Hamas headband, which Thunberg wears also.

The crowd supports Palestine, looking exactly like a Celtic FC crowd.

The text reads “FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA,” the lettering the colors of the flag of Palestine.

by slammer on bSSkkky

~~i have a bsky code if anyone wants it~~

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

Large scale nationalization is happening all across Russia. Saw this on telegram and decided to look them up:

The court returned the Dalnegorsk GOK to the state, September 27, 2023

Dalnegorsky GOK is the only producer of boric acid in Russia. According to the authorities, the enterprise is one of the leading industrial enterprises in Primorye. In the first half of the year, more than 480,000 tons of ore were mined here, which is 36% more than in the same period in 2022.

The Prosecutor General's Office filed a lawsuit against the Fininvest company to declare the results of the privatization on August 2 illegal. On August 8, at the request of the prosecutor's office, 100% of the shares in the authorized capital of Dalnegorsky GOK LLC were seized as part of interim measures.

The main stake in Perm-based Metafrax Chemicals will be transferred to Russia, September 8, 2023

The Arbitration Court of the Perm Territory satisfied the demands of the Prosecutor General's Office to seize in favor of the state the main stake in the Perm enterprise Metafrax Chemicals, which was privatized in the 90s, producing methanol, said regional arbitration judge Tatyana Morozova.

The defendant pointed out the incomparability of the Soviet plant, the cost of which was estimated at 370 million rubles before the denomination, with the modern complex in Gubakha, its price is 116 billion rubles: “the objects are incommensurable in quality and cost terms.” The defendant drew attention to the statute of limitations: the prosecutor’s office had the opportunity to declare the illegality of “privatization” from 1994 to the 2000s. “The state has been saying for 30 years that everything is fine. Well, you can’t say after 30 years that the cow has fed up the bull,” the defender of the Metaholding company concluded his speech.

NOOO YOU CAN’T JUST SEIZE THE PLANT THAT I BOUGHT OFF CHEAP WHEN THE USSR FELL, YOU NEVER SAID IT WAS ILLEGAL BEFORE AND NOW THAT IT’S VALUED AT HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF RUBLES, YOU JUST CAME IN AND TOOK IT AWAY!!!

putin-wink

The Federal Property Management Agency became the owner of 100% of Volzhsky Orgsintez, September 21, 2023 (Volzhsky Orgsintez is one of the largest chemical factories in Europe)

Information about the new owner was entered on September 20. Previously, 100% of the shares of Volzhsky Orgsintez belonged to Alexander Sobolevsky.

In August, the Arbitration Court of the Volgograd Region satisfied the claim of the Prosecutor General's Office against Sobolevsky to claim 100% of the company's shares in favor of the state. In favor of the state, ordinary shares of the joint-stock company with a par value of 0.2 rubles each in the amount of 2,344,925 were to be credited.

The contract for the sale of the bankrupt Perm defense plant was terminated, August 22, 2023

The agreement was concluded on May 22, 2023, the transaction amount was 725 million rubles. The new owner of the defense enterprise announced plans to modernize the plant's production . The Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation challenged the results of the auction by filing a corresponding application with the court as part of the bankruptcy case. The courts of first and appellate instances rejected the claims. As a result, the contract between the defense plant and the Moscow company was terminated pre-trial.

Concern "Pokrovsky" confiscated for corruption proceeds of its beneficiary, October 25, 2023

At the suit of Deputy Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Igor Tkachev, the property of Andrei Korovayko, Arkady Chebanov, as well as related structures of the Pokrovsky concern, one of the large agro-industrial holdings in Russia, was confiscated. In total, 94 enterprises with a total value of 100 billion rubles were donated to the state. The case concerns shares and shares of JSC Concern Pokrovsky, agricultural firms Rus, Dolzhanskaya, Urozhaynaya, Rassvet, Mostovskaya, Rodina, the Kanevskoy meat and poultry plant, and the Pavlovsky meat processing plant. and "Tikhoretsky", Kanevsky, Timashevsky and Kurganinsky sugar factories, Albashsky, Stepnyansky and Staroshcherbinovsky elevators, as well as numerous trading and service companies.

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At first I thought this smells like election season, but the weird part is that none of these moves were advertised loudly. Dozens of news like these are silently happening in the background.

Russia is such a weird country. It’s almost as if two separate factions are running the country.

You have on the one side the willingness to nationalize industries under state control, and on the other side you have the libs preparing for privatization of state assets to patch up the budget deficit.

You have a government that is willing to spend a huge amount of money to keep the economy going, and on the other side you have the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank that doing everything they can to reverse all these efforts by raising interest rates at the snap of a finger.

It’s such a weird country I don’t even know what’s going on anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago

Someone removed the Israel flag at the United Nations protest in Rome

https://streamable.com/lqjakd

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"I'm so shocked (or maybe just pissed) how I've seen multiple posts about the dude from friends that died (thankfully never watched the show) from the same people that have seen my posts and never responded or reacted to anything about the current genocide. Is it really that easy to brainwash people? Wow"

text I got from a friend

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (8 children)

⚡️BREAKING: #Israeli army spokesman told ABC News: The expanded operations underway in #Gaza now are not the official ground invasion

I call bullshit. They could say this every single night while continually making it bigger and bigger until they're effectively in an operation that's normalised without ever saying it. Salami slice escalation.

Other actors need to act, and act now.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

A majority of the two dozen or so holdouts against Tom Emmer are members of the ultraconservative House Freedom Caucus, and many of them continue to say they will vote for Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio, the hard-right chairman of the Judiciary Committee who failed to win the speakership last week.

sicko-yes

The longer this goes on the better. Keep our genocidal government at least partially non-functional for as long as possible.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They say anything they can to avoid saying the IDF is doing it. "What's happening in Gaza right now is a massive casualty event." MSNBC's reporter in southern Israel just said that.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago

as a centrist, I condemn both the IOF and Hamas for not abolishing the state of israel yet

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's so cool how the zionist government of israel is just this rabid dog that murders everything and the USA is it's demonic handler.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I expect hexbear to receive collective royalties for coining GenocideJoe, if not, then I will write a very strongly worded letter to The News

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wealth disparity between white and non-white families in America has accelerated under Biden (from the Federal Reserves):


Figure 2. Wealth Gaps Persisted and Widened Slightly in 2022, Despite Faster Growth in Wealth for Black and Hispanic Families


Figure 9. Especially Non-White Families Said Their Income Is Unusually Low

Now don’t get me wrong Trump wasn’t any better (it was actually worse for everyone), but Biden’s austerity has really intensified the socio-economic disparity between white and non-white people in the country - as white families saw economic gains post-Covid, black and Hispanic families are actually bearing the brunt of the austerity measures (especially in the form of interest rate hikes), and when the recession finally hits, they’ll also be the first ones that are hit the hardest.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Example of the fake rubbish out there that I avoid posting here lmao:

From the Hebrew website: Colonel Yair Shalam, Israel commander of the attack on the Bureij camp in Gaza, was captured by the Palestinian resistance!!!

For those that don't know. This dude is Herzi Halevi and he's literally the highest ranking person in the IDF. Extremely obviously and easily verifiable fake post that is getting reshared by massive numbers of accounts.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Deadliest period for Palestinians in the West Bank in 15 years

Israeli forces and settlers have killed 95 Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied West Bank since the Hamas attacks on Oct. 7, Palestinian health officials said, a surge in what was already a deadly year there. An Israeli soldier was also killed in clashes.

archive.today • Maps: Where the Attacks Are Happening in Israel and Gaza - The New York Times

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

we really need to come up with a better expression than "braver than the troops" because most (Western, at least) troops are utter cowards who piss themselves if they aren't backed up by frequent bomber raids and dozens of various high-tech gizmos. it's sorta like saying "warmer than liquid nitrogen." not a hard bar to pass

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

(archived) really interesting article about how the much-vaunted lightning-fast invasion of Iraq was nowhere near as impressive as portrayed by American propaganda. How do these paper tigers keep getting in my imperialist militaries? thinkin-lenin

The US invasion of Iraq, begun almost exactly twenty years ago, on March 20th, 2003, is often sold to us as a gloriously flawless campaign, where heroic US forces valiantly marched forward, vanquishing hordes of elite Iraqi Fedayeen numbering in the hundreds of thousands. ... But there remains one important facet to the image that has continued to endure the test of time, despite the general acknowledgment these days that the war was an egregious mistake. And this facet is the actual view, the historiography of the war itself from a militaristic, rather than political or social, perspective. Despite acknowledging the war as a mistake, most people still vacuously adhere to the vision of the war as some resounding, exemplar achievement of military science par excellence.

The most obvious thousand-ton elephant in the room must first be swiftly gotten out of the way: There was no actual ‘war’. ... What was once oft-discussed in those days, but is now conveniently buried in the memory-holes of American alt-history is the fact that almost every Iraqi general was paid off by the CIA and various US intelligence services to lay down their arms, along with the men under their command, and surrender. ... Even the US Army Supreme Commander for the war effort, General Tommy Franks attested to the fact:

General Tommy Franks, the US army commander for the war, said these Iraqi officers had acknowledged their loyalties were no longer with the Iraqi leader, Saddam Hussein, but with their American paymasters. As a result, many officers chose not to defend their positions as American and British forces pushed north from Kuwait.

Like something out of a Tom Clancy novel, the MI6/CIA teams even carried cold hard gold bullion in briefcases to effect the bribes ... And a Salon article from late March 2003, on the eve of the war also lifted the lid on the secret, massive CIA effort to completely denude the Iraqi army of any resistance whatsoever. They go on to explain how, as bombs were already devastating Baghdad in the ‘shock and awe’ portion of the conflict prior to the full-on ground invasion, the Iraqi Defense Ministry headquarters was left standing. The reason was self-evident: the CIA had already established quite a rapport with the Iraqi military leadership, and was busy successfully bribing them to lay down their arms.

As the American columns continued to leisurely drive down the highways toward Baghdad, they faced the occasional light small-arms resistance. However, even with such paltry opposition, they were experiencing massive problems. They go on to outline how the Marines continued driving into Iraqi territory for two weeks (with little to no resistance, mind you) in their AAV’s (Assault Amphibious Vehicle), which began to break down en masse ... So they lost a whopping, unheard of 1/3 of their vehicles in the first week or two of the road march just from systemic break downs?

Western wunderwaffe strikes again, expect this time it isn't even some kind of fancy ultra-amazing tank, it's literally troop transports breaking down from the arduous task of... transporting troops, on a fucking highway, not even trudging through mud or anything

At 15:27 of the NBC Nightline special, they even groan about how badly the supply situation deteriorated, the commander explaining how ‘nervous’ he got when they had to ration down to two meals a day for four days straight. ... Here again, at 57:11 of the NBC doc, they describe completely running out of supplies during a sandstorm, where US troops were rationed down to 1 MRE per day, and almost no water. ... In fact, this was a well known occurrence for US forces even back to the 1991 Gulf War conflict. ... They go on to mention the systemic normality of this problem, highlighting how US ground forces virtually ran out of fuel on only day 3 of the 1991 hostilities.

YOU RAN OUT OF FUEL ON DAY 3 stalin-point tito-laugh

Something that Western military "analysts" never bring up when heaping praise on their wunderwaffe and shitting on Soviet/Russian stuff is the logistical footprint - it doesn't matter how amazing your tanks are if they just run out of fuel a few days into the goddamn offensive. I've wondered previously if Western countries' obsession with lightning-fast wars is because deep down they understand they simply have no capability for sustained warfare...

At 44:37 of the NBC documentary, they report an incident where a US serviceman ‘traitor’ threw a grenade into a command tent, killing and seriously wounding ~15 American officers. And this was in the famously elite 101st Airborne division. ... a US Marine Corps Major being run over by a bulldozer, and an elite 101st Airborne command tent being blown away by grenades thrown by a disgruntled US soldier shows what, exactly—exemplary martial spirit? The famed American Esprit de Corps?

lol. lmao. get fragged assholes

At one point, the correspondents describe one of the most eventful parts of their war march toward Baghdad being an incident in Al Kifl—about at the haflway mark—where they came under fire of ‘four mortars’. And scary 105mm mortars at that. Yes, you’ve read that right, a grand total of four mortars and a light drizzle of sniper fire led to an entire US Army unit relocation under major alarm.

data-laughing

When they finally did enter Baghdad, they admit that the only minor skirmishes that flared up were against ‘small teams’ of lightly armed men in civilian clothing; i.e. typical insurgent, light guerilla squads—and not even well armed, trained, or numerous ones at that. Notice how you’ve never seen any footage of real ‘battles’ as we know them from the Iraq invasion, despite the fact that it was billed as the first truly ‘televised war’, and had hundreds of embedded journalists with cameras literally riding along with the US force convoys? ... And notice how, despite several of the so-called key ‘battles’ revolving around capturing critical bridges in approaches to Baghdad, not once did the Iraqi ‘forces’ even attempt to blow up a bridge to hamper the US advance ... There are myriad other ways the US experienced shortages and problems during the invasion. Here, Harper’s DC editor Andrew Cockburn explains how “families of US soldiers in Iraq had to go into debt to buy them adequate armor, nightvision goggles, and other critical gear” because their command was unable to supply them.

The actual enemy combatant losses during Operation Iraqi Freedom, the invasion and capture of Baghdad, which were officially “observed and recorded” as per wiki, were 4,895–6,370. ... And it should be mentioned that, while the US and coalition suffered a ‘celebrated’ total of ~5,000 KIA in the entire Iraq war (including insurgency period), the actual total Allied Force losses (which includes the Iraqi militia that did the heavy lifting) is listed on wiki as: Total dead: 25,071 - Total wounded: 117,961. This is compared to the estimated total dead enemy combatants of: 34,144–71,544. Viewed from that perspective, especially if we assume for argument’s sake the lower end of that range, the war wasn’t as ‘lopsided’ of a victory as it seems—25k Allied vs. 34k enemy dead. After all, it also falls upon the merit of US military skill and prowess if their own militia which they used as cannon-fodder was killed under their watch, does it not? When the US forces work in tandem with them, operating from their ‘rear’ with the overwatch of various systems (artillery, airpower, etc.), it reflects on the US’s military capabilities, if they can’t keep the total forces under their purview from suffering nearly as many casualties as the completely outmatched (no airpower, no artillery, no heavy weapons) enemy. Not to mention, as others have pointed out, these figures don’t count the likely thousands of secret US contractors/mercenaries (Blackwater/Xe, etc.) killed ‘off the books’. ... The fact of the matter is, had US faced even an Iraqi Army (much less a far superior Ukrainian one) that had the same conditions imposed on Russian forces (not taking bribes, for one, and being armed, supplied, aided by a coalition of other major countries), and had the initial invasion therefore stretched out over a longer period, you would have seen those same pratfalls and foibles already outlined above, but at an exponentially greater scale.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The video doing rounds about empty aid trucks from Egypt entering Gaza, is a video from 2021 during the 11-day war. It’s important to remain factual, despite that the aid right now is almost nothing anyways.

There's a possibility the trucks at the border are empty or nowhere near capacity, Egyptian grifters have done this before, it's likely they've doing it again

Regardless Death to Sisi's regime

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Awoo's comment with the Palestine protest in Roblox has fucked me up. Obviously I support support for Palestine, but... This is one of those moments in 2023 that has me completely checked out of reality. Imagine trying to explain this to Marx. His brain would explode: "So the American revolution you wrote about in which everyone in the North called themselves 'essentially a socialist' actually resulted in the largest capitalist state in the history of the world lead by an demented octogenarian and it created vassal states everywhere across the globe including the middle east and the one there is committing genocide against a muslim country with many semitic people but supporting them in the real world is considered antisemitic so we have to hold protests in the virtual computer world of a children's video game. Oh and the revolution never came to Germany or Britain first like you thought, but to backwater Russia, who built the largest socialist project ever and a global superpower spanning a quarter of the landmass of planet Earth only for it to collapse because of Baltic nationalism and the socdem dreams of a reactionary called Gorbachev who opportunistically infiltrated the party and quite literally hit the 'collapse' button once elected to the top post. Those countries are essentially backwaters again now, and there's no real hope of ever having a revolution again because capitalism is global and armed with nuclear bombs."

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel's own defense ministry: current population (adjusted) of Gaza would need 1150 truck loads of food alone coming in per week to supply the minimum number of calories required.

After 16 days of blockade and siege, they have allowed 34 trucks of any aid into Gaza total.

Nitter

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (5 children)

smuglord

how about you give Biden the credit he deserves for this great humanitarian victory? would you prefer 0 trucks? don't let perfect by the enemy of good

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God I hate this conflict so much. It's all one sided negative news. I don't feel the energy to read it because it's so depressing.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (24 children)

I kind of feel like China will of course do whatever it can to simmer down tensions and prevent the war from escalating to be a region-wide conflict because it has its own strategic interests in Middle Eastern stability. But if it were to blow up into essentially a multi-country hot conflict that the world might regard as WW3 or something, I’m actually not so sure they would send troops to fight other than like stationing troops at their Afghanistan border and some carriers out in the ocean. I think they would try to stay out of the conflict, and let the West throw itself at the Middle East as a means of like weakening/depleting. And maybe they would get dragged in if the US was like ok we’re officially going to send US troops to “defend Taiwan” or whatever, to intentionally get them into the war. Idk, I think if it actually pops off, we’re gonna have to temper our expectations of an Iran-Russia-China effort happening

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (19 children)

President Biden said he had “no confidence” in the claims by Palestinians about the number of civilians who have been killed in Gaza during the last two weeks. The Hamas-run Health Ministry in Gaza said more than 6,500 people have been killed by Israeli airstrikes since Oct. 7, a number which could not be independently verified.

“I have no notion that Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed,” Biden said. “I’m sure innocents have been killed. And that’s the price of waging a war.” He added, “I have no confidence in the number that the Palestinians are using.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/25/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news/4cbfd597-2e43-5a81-b7da-496479c309aa?smid=url-share

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Unclear? Israel did it.

The cause of phone and internet outages in Gaza remains unclear, experts say.

It was unclear on Saturday whether a widespread communications outage in the Gaza Strip was because strikes had damaged cellular infrastructure or because Israel had deliberately cut Palestinian service, experts said.

[Continues]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/28/world/israel-gaza-war-hamas-news/the-cause-of-phone-and-internet-outages-in-gaza-remains-unclear-experts-say?smid=url-share

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Bear with me on this one news heads.

The first time I used marijuana and actually got high was a long time ago when I was a teen. I was with a couple friends of mine and we walked to a little cove on the beach, a ways down into a public park. We smoked a joint at the cove, chilled for a few, and then walked back home. Walking back, it really hit me. I vividly remember the feeling of being high for the first time. I felt as though every single moment I was waking up from a dream, like every step and heartbeat was spent piercing the veil between sleep and waking life. It was a feeling of constant transition, where the past was only ever a flicker out of the corner of my eye, and any future, even just 10 steps down the path, was unimaginable. I could focus only on the singular instant in which I existed. It wasn't that the past and the future were hard to fathom, it's that they did not exist.

I am describing this feeling now to the news thread because I believe that this way of being that I experienced as a minor using weed for the first time is a close analogue for how liberals experience and understand history. Just an infinite sequence of individual, disconnected moments, no past or present, only smooth vibes.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

An image of Hamas fighters geared up like IOF.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (5 children)

No offense to any Baltics posters here, but liberals from those countries are the dumbest motherfuckers I've seen in a while. Finland really is convinced that China and Russia are working together to keep the Baltics down with the pipeline accident, claiming that accidents like that just don't happen on such a common route.

Then again, America worshippers don't have the best critical thinking skills. An unfortunate side effect of consuming Marvel content exclusively.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

US forces and coalition troops attacked 10 times in Iraq, three times in Syria: Pentagon

Pentagon Press Secretary Brigadier General Pat Ryder said “US and coalition forces have been attacked at least 10 separate times in Iraq, and three separate times in Syria via a mix of one way attack drones and rockets” between October 7 and 24.

During a news conference, he called the numbers “initial” and did not give information on injuries. He also did not confirm a attack on the Ain al-Asad base in Iraq, reported today by Reuters news agency.

“We know that the groups [who] conduct these attacks are supported by the IRGC [Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps] and the Iranian regime. What we are seeing is the prospect for more significant escalation against US forces and personnel across the region, in the very near term coming from Iranian proxy forces, and ultimately from Iran,” he said.

“We are preparing for this escalation both in terms of defending our forces and responding decisively,” he said.

- Al Jazeera

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Israel apparently intend to try to stop Musk from providing Starlink to aid agencies in Gaza.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Reuters, citing US officials: US forces at Al-Tanf base in Syria are being attacked by drones.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Love to go on reddit-logo and see people argue that "In an ideal world Hamas and Israel would be equally opposed because they are both moral black holes."

Not that in an ideal world, Hamas would not exist because Israel would not be ethnically cleansing a population they put in a giant concentration camp, just that centrism would rule supreme in an ideal world.

And besides, who fucking chooses their degree of opposition based on "morality"? You wouldnt equally oppose the KKK and idk, the Manson family, because both want race wars, you oppose the KKK more because they have superior means and organization to perform actions in the service of that goal. Opposing the morality of a group is a thought exercise.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Feeling a little good this afternoon seeing all the solidarity out there for Palestine. It really feels like the only thing the zionists have control over is the narrative put out by the msm, which very few young people give a shit about. More and more people are coming out as anti-capitalist and anti-israel which gives me some motivation to go on. Does it help the people on the ground being bombed in total darkness rn, no, it doesn't, but hopefully whatever aid people like Hasan and Shaun are doing can make somewhat of a dent. I really don't want to give in to despair. If Israel genocides these people the entire fucking world is awake and will see.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago

Eternal solidarity to Palestine in their struggle against Amerikkkan subjugation fidel-salute-big

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The FBI tapes on MLK are supposedly going to be made public in 2027 based on a court order in the 70's.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard: If the Zionists launch a ground attack in Gaza, they will be buried there

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago

Wishing idf lots of friendly fire and general unhappiness

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

There is a huge situation allegedly happening in Dagestan Russia right now where large crowds are attacking the airport and trying to get to an airplane that they believe Israelis are on board.

https://streamable.com/pulzxm

https://streamable.com/a71qix

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Another banger by Slammer on BlueSSkkky bird-mad

altI’m sorry but x will stop” meme format. The text says “I’m sorry but… the forced births will stop.” The Supreme Court building is pictured in the background.

In the center of the picture stands JDPON icon Qin Shi Huangdi dressed like a doctor. The Michael Jordan “fuck them kids” meme is in the foreground, edited so he’s wearing a ceremonial Chinese emperor headdress like Qin Shi Huangdi. There’s a collection of pleases looking woman “wojaks” behind Dr. Qin Shi Huangdi, including the Yerba Girl.

In the upper right hand corner there’s a sonogram image featuring chairman Gonzalo who is boiling baby Hitler in a big steaming cauldron

Grouped together, crying and seething, are pro-life activist Kristan Hawkins, Pope Francis, Elon Musk, and Clarence Thomas.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The main post that caught my eye lately has been the Naked Capitalism article where Yves quotes John Helmer. I have some problems with it but I am in broad agreement with it nonetheless.

My summary:

Hamas had five objectives:

  1. Make a fool out of the Israeli intelligence state. ✅
  2. Demonstrate that Israel desperately wants to commit ethnic cleansing and/or genocide in Gaza - no more slow burn suffering. ✅
  3. Hold out against the Israeli offensive into Gaza long enough for Hezbollah, as well as various Syrian, Iraqi, and Iranian forces, to intervene on the other fronts. (pending)
  4. Compel the Zionist vassals inside nearby Arab states to resist Israel and the US. (pending)
  5. Engage Russia and China to deter/combat US forces in the region and try and mitigate Israel's nuclear weapons. (pending)

A two-state solution appears completely impossible now unless the Zionist government capitulates, which they might never do. Hamas and the Resistance are probably in pretty good shape, relatively speaking - the fate of the Gazan civilians and the fate of the rest of the Resistance are pretty much separate now, and have to be analyzed separately. It is possible that Russia and China might tentatively engage more concretely in the war (they have big interests in the region too that would not be particularly served if a third of the region's capitals were nuked) but how exactly remains to be seen. If a hot war between the rest of the Resistance and Israel does begin, Israel might lose even if it wins due to the massive amount of infrastructure that would be targetted and destroyed by various drones and missiles.

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Since 1943 the US and its European allies, including Germany (Olaf Scholz’s government, not Adolf Hitler’s), have aimed to liquidate the secular nationalist Arab leadership capable of co-existence with the West and a state for the Jewish people. In Palestine Hamas has studied seventy-five years of lessons on the impossibility of coordinating Arab state war in the defence of the Palestine part of the two-state solution.

For more than a year, therefore, Hamas has prepared in well-kept secret an offensive against Israel to achieve five objectives – the first to demonstrate how inferior the Israeli military is, how vulnerable, how incompetent their intelligence on the Arab world. This has been achieved by the initial attack of October 7. The second Hamas objective has been to demonstrate the Israeli plan of ethnic cleansing of Gaza, genocide against the Arabs, and incorporation of all Israeli-occupied territories in a single theocratic Zionist state — Quod erat demonstrandum. The third objective is to hold out against the expected Israeli counterattack for long enough to activate the Hezbollah forces on the northern Lebanon front; Syrian and Iranian forces on the eastern Golan front; and the West Bank Palestinians, including the Jordanian Palestinians; the latter’s targets will be US air and armoured land force bases in Jordan. So far, so good. The final Hamas objectives are to compel the vacillating sheikhdoms to resist US pressure; limit oil and gas supplies to the enemy markets; prevent regional land base and air transit rights being activated in support of Israel — so far, so good. And lastly, the fifth objective, to engage the friendly nuclear powers – Russia, China – to deter, and if necessary combat US forces in the region and Israel’s threat to fire its nuclear weapons.

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Zionist ideology and Israel’s constitution have ruled out the two-state solution. The Arab state supporters of the two-state solution (including Fatah and the Palestine National Authority) cannot support it when Gaza is being liquidated by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), supplied by the Pentagon. President Joseph Biden’s recent public remarks endorse Israel’s one-state solution, adding his personal religious benediction — “may God protect our troops”. Until he said that, Biden had limited himself to invoking God’s protection of “our troops” in speeches on the Afghanistan War in April 2021 and on the war against Russia in the Ukraine in February 2023. Before Biden, it was President George Bush Jr. who claimed God on the US side when he meant self-defence – “we will defend our freedom. We will bring freedom to others and we will prevail. May God bless our country and all who defend her.” With Biden the Christian, and Secretary of State Antony Blinken declaring himself Jewish in Israel, the war of Israel against Gaza is a theocratic one, a crusade. This is how it is understood now throughout the Muslim world. According to God, therefore, there is only a one-state solution – it is either Palestine or Israel.

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On the Gaza front, Hamas has fought the IDF to a standstill outside the Gaza border wall. The Israel Air Force has dropped about 4,000 tonnes of bombs per week, 8,000 tonnes to October 21; that is more than the US Air Force dropped on Afghanistan in the peak year of 2019. More than 3,500 Palestinians have been killed so far, including at least 1,030 children and hundreds of family units; more than 12,500 people have been injured, one million Palestinians displaced, and thousands of homes destroyed. About 1,200 are missing believed to be trapped under the rubble. The Israeli and US government record, reported by the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) in Washington, documents the continuing firing from Gaza into Israeli territory in what the ISW calls its “Iran updates”. A prolonged IDF siege threatens to kill several hundred thousand Palestinians by starvation, dehydration, disease, and a combination of artillery and aerial bombardment, while leaving the Hamas forces relatively unscathed and waiting to inflict a higher rate of casualties on the IDF than it has ever experienced.

The wording of "fought the IDF to a standstill outside the Gaza border wall" is a little bit of an exaggeration - it's true that Hamas has occasionally fired anti-tank rockets at Israel as well as drones, and it's true that the IDF hasn't entered yet, but it's clear that the reason Israel isn't entering isn't because it can't enter. Nonetheless, Hamas forces are likely relatively unscathed.

On the northern front across the Lebanon border, there have been exchanges of missile, drone, anti-tank rocket, artillery, and mortar fire between the IDF and Hezbollah. There have been casualties on both sides. Border settlements on the Israeli side have been evacuated to the south.

US forces on the Jordan front. The Israeli press has been reporting some details of USAF reinforcements at the Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in the northeastern corner of Jordan and possible Marine deployments in Jordan. Whether the Marines will be moved to defend the Al-Tanf base on the Syrian side of the border, 230 kilometres northeast of Muwaffaq Salti, isn’t known.

Russian and Chinese navy deployments. The Russian fleet based at Tartous, Syria, is at sea, as reported here. At the moment, there are as many, possibly more Chinese vessels of the 44th Naval Escort Task Force in the Persian Gulf. The anti-surface, anti-submarine, and anti-air missile capabilities of the Type-052D destroyer can be followed here, and of the Type-054A frigate here. For the time being, the significance of this Chinese screen to deter a US-Israeli missile and aircraft attack on Iran has been missed in the western press and by Russian military reporters.

There's been a little bit of back-and-forth over China's naval presence in the region, so I'm gonna put a pin in that and see if the situation changes, but we can all agree that Russia has its sights aimed at the US carrier group if they try anything too reckless - Putin essentially confirmed that.

US Afghanistan War veteran: “Suppose Israel and the US understand they are facing an existential survival future in which they must combat swarm attacks on three or four fronts — Gaza/Hamas, North/Hezbollah, Golan/Syria/Iran, and West Bank/Jordan, and they calculate the Arabs have at least a 30 to 60–day arms supply in stock, do they calculate they can withstand a multi-front offensive for enough time, resupplied by air from the US? If they calculate that they can withstand a 30-day multi-directional swarm, they must understand that, at a minimum, Israel’s infrastructure and economy will be ruined. In a scenario like that, even if they ‘win’, they lose. In terms of airlifting and shipping supplies, we’ve already seen that the Arabs can hit Israeli military and civilian airfields, airports and seaports. Defending Israeli infrastructure with their air defence capability is the main mission of the strike groups the US is deploying in the eastern Mediterranean and in the Red Sea. Western societies like Israel cannot function without solid, reliable, electrical power and communications services. We can be certain that power generation, transmission and distribution will be targeted by the Arabs non-stop. The cell towers and central communications centres will be too.”

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago

Reposting a @[email protected] bit to remind us to stay positive, collected, and hopeful during this critical moment

A world away, further than any place you'll ever go, a young boy sits outside a crumbling, concrete apartment block. Sea spray and smoke swirl through the air together, salty and acrid, coating the world in a shade grayer than usual. He sits and stares up at the sky, at the planes carrying missiles overhead, and he listens for the sounds of catching powders and marching footsteps. He sits with two million siblings. None of them may make it to tomorrow. The sufficiently old and sufficiently able take to the streets. The shelters and tunnels curling beneath them like veins tremble against the tension.

Have they given up?

No. They haven't. And that means neither can you.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (5 children)

With it seeming like the Ukrainian counteroffensive is basically over now, this is my final bingo grid. No lines unfortunately; Russia did much better than I expected.

It's time to move on to the next offensive, and this is my bingo grid for Israel:

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