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Of the 2 takes I've seen RD make on Twitter beefing with Hakim I've agreed with him both times but he's really the embodiment of "incredibly insufferable ML that needs to learn how to 'just vibe' and not drone out class analysis" when people are just casually chatting/hanging out

Christman fucks up plenty too.

But that's because he's our modern Harrier Du Bois. It comes with the territory

Who is surprised? Roderic isn't, as far as this tweet goes. It's just the mixing of idealistic reasoning with Marxist reasoning to try to bring people to Marxism from Islam. It's a method that communists call opportunism and claim, because of materialist philosophy, can only lead to incorrect interpretations and failure of socialist movements. Palestinians have material and religious reasons to resist, but the marxist analysis should focus on the material and how religion connects, not the other way

There's a case to be made that their religion has become very ingrained with their day to day lives to the point that it's indistinct from any other type of social organization they have. In that case the faith, religious ideology, and texts are a little secondary to things like their family structures, social infrastructure, support networks, and locations where they can organize. So in that sense their religion has become very material, which is often what happens. Religious belief can often be made very manifest in the world, reified through things like very tight social groups. Islam in much of the world, including Palestine, is as much a political organization as it is the more spiritual side of things.

Although I'd criticize Hakim for characterizing all Palestinians as Muslim, or saying that Islam is the primary thing that's motivating them. Rather, it's more the case that political Islam is the most organized game in town due to historical factors of the region. If it weren't Islam, then people who want liberation would have something else, like how many Irish Republicans are Catholics. It is true though that 98% of Palestinians are Muslim, but that 2% who aren't will probably also want liberation.

I think your comment is exactly showing something that we as communists should be aware of: calling someone an opportunist or a reactionary is not some heavenly stamp which forever makes that person incorrect or evil or some shit. Calling someone opportunist only needs to mean "currently in the process we call opportunism" and nothing more. We decide whether that's true and expect the comrade to change or not depending on that result. If they don't change after being opportunist then they are still performing that opportunism.

Roderic doesn't think Hakim is evil or something, that's more idealist than believing in religion generally, just that the claims to religious power are opportunistic and through that Hakim is performing opportunism. We can disagree, but the idea that we can't call someone something because it's mean, even when that thing is a concrete description of a process, is bullshit that we take from some western Christian beliefs of unwashable guilt (without Jesus or whatever).

Also to be clear, I disagree with Roderic only because I think that Hakim is doing the "their religion becomes material to their lives" thing and it seems probably true based on the form of resistance Palestinians are doing. The fact that he is also religious makes it complexer (and possible that he should not try to connect it to Marxism) but I'm not bothered by it until we're already far enough in socialism that religion's material presence isn't necessary anymore.

Wow he would love this site. Get a lot of kicks calling people fascist for kinda enjoying a Netflix show or something.

they don't have anything else to be strong outside of hope of religion

This doesnt seem right to me. Palestinian people resist and persist because they are colonized people wanting liberation, self determination and through their will to live. Just like the Koreans did, just like the Vietnamese did, just like the Haitians or Algerians did. Just like hundreds of millions did under as bad or worse colonial or imperial opression. Palestinian resistance is admirable but it isnt something historicaly unique that needs the "hope of religion" or the "importance of islam" in order to exist or be explained. At best those are of symbolic importance and manifesting due to the particular superstructure in Gaza but the actual struggle and anti-colonial martyrdom and bravery is something that has been replicated again and again across massively different religious and cultural contexts.

Palestinian people persist and would have persisted just as much in the absense of Islam. If they were cristian , atheist or buddhist. As tens if not hudred sof thousands of non Muslim palestinians do and did. The Quran no matter how beautifuly written doesnt actualy provide any insight for a marxist in the analysis of how and why Palestinians persist and reading the biography of the Prophet and some book by a white dude that converted to islam are anything but foundemental in understanding or interpreting the palestinian struggle and neither are they particularly usefull for building or expanding any other struggle, neo-colonial or otherwise

Palestinians have everything most other opressed and colonized people had in order to be strong. And they are strong and would be strong outside of the "hope of Islam" .

I think you're confusing critique of Gazans with critique of someone who is openly Marxist utilizing religion to explain the Gazans WITHOUT mentioning how their religion is material to them. It's the fact that the tweets talk about Islam as a force above the material conditions. Hakim believes it, and I'm not bothered by that at all and support it, but do not appreciate the mix with materialism without being clear about that relationship. It's kinda impossible to avoid as a believer and is a clear contradiction, but we have many more of those that are more important than religion/materialism at this point.

Latent Islamophobia tbh

"The deprogram guys are evil opportunists because: [insert perfectly normal quotes]"

Hakim's take is a little cringe but getting this worked up about it is orders of magnitude worse.

RD is literally the guy from the "no everything has to be serious at all times" meme. This is the level of posting that could kill you via brain aneurysm if you're not careful.

He does this whenever he thinks hes got a hit tweet.

He once posted all day for like a full week about how he epic owned the nordics about food cause he posted "rotten reindeer cock" over and over, it used to be his bio like "destroyer of subhuman nordic cuisine" or something like that.

Online guy getting mad about religion

Flim at 11

i love the guys that are like, tryin to theorize the best, most marxist, politics while also vividly hallucinating that the year is 1921 and they have been asked to give a speech on how best to collectivize the Russian economy.