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Highlights: GOP presidential candidates are threatening to deport international students who they accuse of sympathizing with anti-Israel terrorists. “If you are here on a student visa as a foreign national, and you’re making common cause with Hamas, I’m canceling your visa and I’m sending you home, no questions asked,” vowed Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis during Wednesday night’s debate.

Those comments were just the latest salvo in the escalating Republican campaign against immigrants who the right accuses of siding with Hamas, the group that perpetrated the October 7 mass murder in Israel. It’s a trend that is setting off alarm bells for civil liberties advocates, who warn that these proposals risk conflating support for Palestinian rights or criticism of the Israeli government with an endorsement of terrorism. Moreover, they argue, threats of deportation could have a severely chilling effect on free speech and the right to protest.

The Republican demands have already gone far beyond typical campaign-trail bluster. In a letter to Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) urged the Biden administration to “immediately deport any foreign national—including and especially any alien on a student visa—that has expressed support for Hamas and its murderous attacks on Israel.

These calls come as GOP leaders have pressed for even broader immigration crackdowns in the wake of the Israel-Hamas war.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, the "freeze peach" folk showing, once again, they’re anything but.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Moreover, they argue, threats of deportation could have a severely chilling effect on free speech and the right to protest.

Weird.

This is not a matter of free speech,” Rubio insisted in a Fox News op-ed. “It is about abiding by the conditions of their visa—a voluntary agreement between them and the US government.” Those who “incite violence or endorse terrorist activity,” he said, violate those terms.

Oh right, it's about the conditions of humanitarian speech to oppose Rubio's and other Republican's misanthropic support for Israel. I suppose people like myself who value life over the unborn and firearms should really reconsider our stance.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At this point, are conservatives still considered as Americans?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Biden is a conservative. The people we’re taking about here are regressives

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The people we're talking about are fascists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yup.

But I like calling them regressives too. It’s fun watching them blink in confusion trying to figure out what I just called them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They’re the same picture

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Not to me, they aren't. To be an American, I think you should be human first. Or at least sentient.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hey, this is a fun idea! Conservatives have said for years they are cool with expatriating Americans and deporting them to "make America great".

Nearly every act of racism, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia and other bigotry ever committed in the U.S. has been committed by conservatives. We could really make America great by just deporting conservatives! And since this was their idea, I see no problem with starting (and ending) with them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's build the Mexico wall, and put conservatives on the other side of it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The selfish side of me loves your idea, but I would hate to do that to Mexicans. They have done nothing to deserve our plague of conservatism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's build the wall and move to Mexico.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FFS not everything is black and white.

Just because you disagree with the actions of one side doesn't mean you automatically agree with the actions of the other side. Both sides can be in the wrong and you can stand in the middle pointing that out.


Beyond that, you have the right to free speach; unless the government (or just some random senator) disagrees with that speach? Even if they were openly agreeing with everything HAMAS does while also condemning Israel; that's a deportable (or even remotely punishable) offense? The fuck?

[–] xerazal 10 points 1 year ago

Whoa hold on, you're making too much sense.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

This is the same bullshit game they play to chill every other sort of speech and expression they think ought to be stuffed into a closet and/or out of public life- threaten those that speak it, greenlight the bullying, and make life hell for people that insist on having their own opinions or identities, and then cry crocodile tears about how they hate our freedom