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[–] [email protected] 150 points 9 months ago

Ok, go to court and do it, or shut the fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 147 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

That, by itself, should be cause to remove the Texas Lt. Gov from office. He's literally committing sedition and violating his oath of office.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure Texas will get right on that, just as soon as they’ve removed accused felon Ken Paxton from office.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I recognize this is not the point of the post, but an accused felon doesn’t really make sense, since a felon is someone who is formally tried and convicted of a felonious crime.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if you're just arguing semantics here, but just for clarification in case you, or anyone else, is unsure why the other person might have said "accused felon", it is because Paxton was indicted for felony securities fraud back in 2015. He has used his political office to delay the trial since then, and has yet to be tried. 8 years and counting since the indictment without a trial. Hence, "accused felon".

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If violating the oath of office was a real way to have people fired, the vast majority of politicians and judges would be in prison right now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Don't tempt me with a good time

[–] [email protected] 108 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They're like five year olds...

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Most five year olds are far better behaved.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (9 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I see what you did there

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If he had any real reason to do so, it would be fine. Their problem is that "retalitation" is not a valid reason according to A14.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Radio hosts are saying failure to secure our border is an insurrection. I wish I was making it up.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

That's just because they don't understand words with more than three syllables.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The more extreme republicans in Congress have been trying to mangle the definition to fit any politics or laws they don’t agree with. Their thinking is something like “this action will hurt the country, therefore people who support it are committing treason!” Of course one problem is they can’t tell the difference between facts and their beliefs/predictions. The other is of course that’s not the definition of treason, which specifically means a betrayal by colluding with an outside party, or an insurrection (you know, like their leader tried). And to normal people it’s obviously so dangerous to start claiming that politics and policies you don’t agree with are “treason”.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They don’t actually believe it’s treason; They’re trying to water down the word, so when Trump gets charged they can go “but look at all the “treason” the Dems have committed! The Dems haven’t been punished for it, so why should Trump?”

It’s a pretty common conservative tactic. Any time a prominent party member is going to be charged with something or have some big scandal break, they start rabble rousing and accusing liberals of whatever that particular key word or phrase is. All to dilute the actual meaning, and be able to go “it really isn’t that bad because the Dems do it all the time.” It doesn’t matter whether or not the democrats actually did any of it; All that matters is that republicans say they did, and conservative voters don’t fact-check them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Right, that's true. One, they do things tit-for-tat because they're childish. I was actually just commenting somewhere else about the behavior/tactic you describe. I think it's also supposed to make their target audience think "well you're just accusing us of that because we accused you of it" or "that's projection", because these people do think like that and act like it in their own lives.

It also makes no moral sense because if say, my neighbor robbed a store, would that make it okay for me to rob a store? Of course not.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Can a governor do that, though? From my limited knowledge of US political structure, a governor is part of the executive branch, and overruling electoral process can only be done my the judicial branch.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago (1 children)

NAL, but almost certainly not. Governors don't get to decide who gets to appear on a ballot. Trump got removed, because he was found to have participated in an insurrection, a clear violation of the 14th Amendment.

If they want to remove Biden, they'll have to prove he did something disqualifying.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's Texas. If they want to do it they'll just make up some shit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But they have to prove it in court, and failing to do that might set some ugly precedents they will come to regret

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But they would “prove” it in court. You don’t think the Supreme Court in Texas is stacked with conservatives who would rubber stamp “Biden is an insurrectionist”?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Or do like Florida did and literally change the law so that it better suits their political machinations.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Sure. States have authority over their own ballot process. Would it be a civil lawsuit violating a person's Constitutional rights that are Constitutionally valid candidates? Could be.

But Dan Patrick is also "joking" for clout, otherwise, he'd just be disrespecting the US Constitution due to political agenda interference. Then again, the GOP is known to act as mere children in their politics and their followers are known to eat that shit right up to 'own the libs'.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I doubt he was joking.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah, we all know he wasn't joking. He probably said it before somebody pointed out that it's against his state constitution to do so. And even if he already knew it was against the constitution, he could have said it just to garner support from his deplorables.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Lieutenant Governor. But .. still no.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

The Republican party is a criminal conspiracy.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Based on what? Donnie stoked an insurrection and plotted a coup. He's a criminal.

What did Biden do?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're trying to water down the word "insurrection" as hard as they can so they can invoke the 14th. They haven't really thought it through much more than that, much like the current impeachment discussions.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Loves his son, flaws and all

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

He can’t. Like all conservatives in politics- he knows nothing about the laws he swore to uphold.

[–] tigeruppercut 5 points 9 months ago (5 children)

There's a large swath of dumbassery in the current congress, especially the house and especially since maga, but don't make the mistake of thinking that all cons are dumb. Tons of the senators are lawyers. They aren't ignorant of the law, they're evil people using the law to line their pockets and make the world a worse place. Turtle McConnell couldn't have been grifting in politics for 137 years if he was stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

This is going to lead to a civil war. The Republicans simply cannot accept any consequences for their actions, or any failure of their insane message to win a majority vote, so they resort to insurrection.

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