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WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT?!?!? T VALUES? P VALUES? OH WE JUST CHOOSE A RANDOM NUMBER WE LIKE TO BE THE THRESHOLD FOR NORMALCY? OH THATS SO COOL AND OBJECTIVE AND MATHMATICAL. SOUNDS LIKE BULLSHIT TO ME ACTUALLY. OH YOU WANT ME TO DO A XI^2 TEST? HOW ABOUT YOU XI^2 MY ASS! FUCKING MEASURE THE CRITICAL Z VALUE OF MY TAINT. LOSER.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think you have to be an actual masochist to enjoy statistics. Even if I kinda suck at number theory and set theory and all that jazz, I totally see the appeal--there's a lot of elegance, beauty, and wonder in mathematics. But statistics? Pure horror. That's not to say that statistics isn't useful, just that it's ugly and completely devoid of fun (for me)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

The only good thing about statistics is that you can use R or Python to just iterate through all the random values and then pick one later that actually works.

But it's not elegant at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I have the exact opposite opinion. Sure, math is pretty, but it also lies. It's how you get "spherical cow in a vacuum" solutions to problems. Statistics is dirty, but that's because everything it measures is even dirtier. Mathematics without statistics can only tell you what should be. Statistics is how you measure what actually is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I hear you, but that feels like more of a physics model vs. engineering heuristic dichotomy rather than math vs. statistics.

(If you haven't seen it already, the Engineer Guy did a lovely little series of videos about engineering heuristics)

The kind of math I find alluring doesn't operate in an idealized version of reality; rather, it's completely divorced from reality, instead living in universes defined solely by mathematical axioms. It's only incidentally that real-world applications that arise from these investigations (e.g. modern cryptography from the work of centuries of number theory nerds). But to each their own! In general, I prefer the concrete to the abstract, but statistics is an exception.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Staticicians pulling out charts and calculating normal distributions to show how improbable it is that nobody likes them despite the empirical evidence

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Its funny, because I am taking a statistics class right now in college. It is a very well prepared class, super good lectures, very good materials and a well defined list of deliverables through out the semester. I think it is the best prepared class I've taken this far and I am closing the second year of computer engineering. Probably I will have quite a high grade.

Even with all this I still agree with OP. Fuck statistics.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

you should be an expert at pee values though...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

why is such a good post in this comm

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I barely passed stats in college and I remember nothing from it, oops!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm doing it right now and I'm PISSED.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pay some nerd to do it for you, math is for suckers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Nah dude it's for college, I was dumb enough to try to finish my degree as an adult. I can't cheat exams.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Prof: Pls do an xi^2 test
Dir_owl: 8^U

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

kelly are you at a Loss for words?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Everything is a uniform distribution because either it happens or it doesn't happens.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Unironically this i-think-that

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

since you're an owl, it's not surprising that you're into dark magics

We — your ignorant posting familiars — watch you struggle over the runes, and admire your determination and intellect.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Pissoff Distribution

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Lies, damned lies and statistics

-Mark Twain

-- Flakes Bongler

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure p values are there for a reason but my teacher refused to explain it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

When you take a statistics class while also taking a handful of calculus classes, statistics feels like its just making up math to feel special.

Derive something? nope! just memorize the weird rules because I said so!

At least with calculus, if you're feeling frustrated with the whys you can brute force your way through the whys and arrive at the answer. Stats is just made up nonsense. Calculus is just rate of change elaborated on forever, I get that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I want to relearn it tbh, I think I have decent statistics literacy, but it could be better

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

"Even professional statisticians are not good intuitive statisticians."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Luckily we don't have the math to filter any result we want from noise

Unfortunately we can't publish the data but trust us, the math is correct