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Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can't remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you're on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won't bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you're interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I'll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I'm going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I'm going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the "Lhamana" and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a "middle" as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won't go in detail here because I don't feel qualified to summarize it, but it's in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don't refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn't an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There's probably some cultural significance to this, but I'm not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women's work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

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[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Feel like I need to stop using this site because I need IRL friends since I'm very lonley, but all the queer groups in my area are full of radlibs and Zionists :( Like its unhealthy to have my main form of social interaction outside of my job be this website, but there is very few people who will click with my interests and queerness

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The trans group chat is pretty cool. And there's a decent level of separation from how hexbear is. Join us sometime catgirl-heart

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I joined it briefly when it came out but the volume of messages was too much for me, as I was either feeling like I was missing out on something, or I would be flooded with notifications. Thanks for the recommendation though

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Admittedly this is the second or third time I've heard such things (from different people). I'm technically a mod of tracha (though never do mod things, just chat a lot) but am not speaking on behalf of the rest here but- maybe we might start up a "tracha-lite" or branch out into having different channels for things like difficult/sad discussion topics. I can let you know when that happens if you want rat-salute-2

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

If a trachat light happens I would be up for joining

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

its unhealthy to have my main form of social interaction outside of my job be this website,

Universally or personally speaking? 'Cause I ended up in your situation, for so many reasons.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just noticed over time because the couple queer people who were almost socialists were actually cool to talk to and interact to. Just kinda miss that sort of thing in my life

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

maybe this is weird of me, but i kinda see bearsite as a means to an end these days; I see it as a place to find people with my interests and who i like talking to, and hopefully I can build something deeper with them. I also find tracha a little overwhelming so i don't chat too much, but I do like me some small groups or 1-on-1 things.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This also 10000%. Hexbear and the grad, apart from shitposting and once in a while effortposting (etc) are more like a who's who/yellow pages/repository of people and activities that are not ghouls in one form or another and are generally pretty cool ish (even if we might not always vibe)

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

agree, except uh im like super shy lol in chatrooms and starting dms etc. so i'm not great at it, haha

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There's definitely no one way or another to judge being good at socializing if you think about it though (by whose standards, after all?) but I've absolutely seen you ofc niko-happy

Personally- you've โ–‡โ–‡โ–‡โ–‡โ–‡โ–‡โ–‡โ–‡โ–‡โ–‡โ–‡โ–‡ (info we both know). That's already incredibly cute and comfy AF, IMO you're totally winning at the chatrooms and DMs thing if you think about it doggirl-thumbsup

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

the solid-coloured blocks was such a good bit, you had me laughing haha. I think I know to what you're referring, and maybe you are right!

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Definitely requires getting into some decent circles that have zero tolerance for radlibs and Zionism and generally aren't online, IKTF.

Recently booted a ex-friend (had been mild befriending for a bit, they increasingly were showing their true colors particularly re Zionism as it came up but in hindsight just not gonna have any tolerance for such takes anymore) for exactly such reasons, and I'd met them at a queer space (in that same space seen self-hating/mentally colonized hanjian, people playing a clip of some US talk show host laughing off that strike quite a while back on Syrian officers' academy graduation and family gathering events, etc). Honestly don't want to reach out in such spaces anymore when there are infinitely better ones (like my partner's friend circles and people online, or my siblings etc. or even what neighbors I've talked to due to mostly being POC).