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Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can't remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you're on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won't bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you're interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I'll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I'm going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I'm going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the "Lhamana" and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a "middle" as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won't go in detail here because I don't feel qualified to summarize it, but it's in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don't refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn't an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There's probably some cultural significance to this, but I'm not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women's work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Gender research findings go here

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

the surgeon I was going with backed out because he doesn't feel confident enough for my specific case yet. he said he would try to research and contact me again in a few weeks to see if he found any leads for where I go

cw: suicide, hopelessness, ventingI really want to kill myself. the drive is so real. I tried to tell him I accept that there's uncertainty on outcomes and complications and even having a phallus alone would help me so much, but that wasn't enough.

exhausting every way you can think of trying to convince someone to take a chance and pull you from the misery only for him to kindly and firmly refute each is difficult. feeling completely backed into a corner with nothing but acceptance that this grim era will continue without the hope I was holding onto, it really is difficult

I just want someone to help me

[–] [email protected] 5 points 54 minutes ago

My doctor: get your cholesterol under control and then we can raise your dose

Okay but I'm too depressed to have be able to stick with a diet can we just try increasing the estrogen and manage everything from there?

I unilaterally decided to up my dose my just taking more. Only up to the minimum recommended dose for two weeks now I think. I haven't felt better in ages and finding the motivation to eat healthy, get exercise, and socialize, has never been greater. We really need to drill into the medical community how important HRT is and to get up to an effective dose asap. Maybe it's a placebo but it feels real and the effects are real so w/e.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

They weren't lying, this progesterone really do be making me eepy.

Also my hair is like, ridiculously soft suddenly. Like almost overnight, even my girlfriend noticed it. I'm definitely not imagining things and I haven't changed anything in my hair care. Idk where this came from but I'm very happy about it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago

looking in the mirror and seeing a visibly fucked up clocky trans girl, which is fair because i am a visibly fucked up clocky trans girl

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

whats the gender neutral form of the word dude?

duden?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago

Bit idea: dismiss all non-queer media forever

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Wait days to get a call back about sperm banking in case I want to have kids in the future.

Get called back in the middle of the work day

Person on the phone who's supposed to be "courteous and confidential" asks me questions I can't answer without announcing to the office I'm getting my jizz froze and takes ages to switch over to yes/no

Get told they don't take insurance for this (no mention of that on the website)

dog-screm

I hate this shit. I hope my therapist can help me w/ resources. For anything medical I usually rely on my mom for help but that's a no go here as she doesn't even know I'm on HRT

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is your therapist a social worker? I think Social workers can be good at helping get through that. Sadly starting hrt was delayed quite a while for me while I sorted out the conflicting info and poor communication between my urologist and the fertility clinic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 minutes ago

I don't think so. She did give me resources but I hadn't wanted to act on them in case the one Planned Parenthood suggested worked out.

I went ahead and started HRT but I feel like it should still be okay for a little bit? I read it takes a couple months to make sperm so hopefully I've got some of the lil dudes left chilling in there

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

I lifted arm-L madeline-smug arm-R am on drugs today so tbh why not. Long may it continue...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I lifted today as well doggirl-sleep Mostly because exercising makes literally everything else in life a little less difficult. I lose all ability to focus on anything when I don't exercise regularly

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Really? Dang, which part of lifting makes focusing easier?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

I think it's a combination of a couple different things. For once my body gets really restless if I'm sedentary, which makes it hard to sit down and focus on stuff. And the other reason is that lifting helps me sleep and eat a ton better.

I usually have super low appetite (maybe because i got so used to ignoring my hunger cues when i was depressed idk), but lifting makes me feel hunger "normally" and crave actual meals, which helps my brain work the way it shoulddoggirl-thumbsup

[–] [email protected] 3 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

my body gets really restless if I'm sedentary, which makes it hard to sit down and focus on stuff

Is this why I've been unable to read since I got fired... catgirl-huh Oh no... I know about improving appetite though, that shit rules, fuck yeah.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Maybe, that's how it works for me at least (unfair that I need to be physically active to nerd out properly tbh), but if that's the case for you it should get easier soon now that you're working out again doggirl-happy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 minutes ago

Nerd oppression by your own body!! catgirl-hiss I hope it should, but also my body is a fuckin shambles and ten reps per arm obliterates me. I have an extremely long way to go, if it's even physically possible for me to be in good shape anymore.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Ash getting zooted on creatine. I'm here for it. (For anyone watching don't overdo creatine, pretty sure it can damage your kidneys or liver)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

NO STAHP! I NEED YOU TO HAVE HEALTHY ORGANS!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

My organs are probably rekt already soz berdly-smug

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Damn I need to find another source

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

Hmmmmmm I'm soooo eepysleepy today~ (I was kept up till 7am by chronic pain but still woke up before noon) catgirl-flop

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

We have this family in for one of their kids. The other kids visit daily. They have one little girl who is both cute and creepy in the way only little girls can be. She comes riiiight up to me and just stands and stares at me, like just 10 cm in front of me and stares. Says nothing. Just smiles. Adorable

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

dysphoria, social anxietyHave a (free, yay. well, included in membership cost) consultation with a personal trainer/physical therapist guy at my gym coming up to help me design a better routine and diet and stuff

I talked to him yesterday but I'm not out at the gym and idk if I wanna out myself but I don't want to make things awkward there since it's like, the only "third place" I have rn

I dunno if telling him "yeah I really don't want bulky arms and shoulders and I'm trying to grow my hips and ass" would give him the hint or that'd be weird and don't really know how I'm gonna navigate that conversation

I guess I can come up with a plausible alibi about training for hiking and that I have a job offer to work for the forestry department so I'm wanting to work on my legs a lot for steep hill hiking for that?

The staff there all seem cool and it's a pretty inclusive gym (seen multiple other queer ppl there) but for some reason it's way less nerve-wracking thinking about just vaguely coming out to someone as just broadly queer than saying "uh, I have The Genderβ„’ actually"

I dunno

I feel like I'm more nervous about it than I should be but that's like always the case for me (GAD)

I'm doing a lot better overall the last month or so than my usual though? Idk, any thoughts? Thank you nice internet ppl cat-trans

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 minutes ago

As a former personal trainer, they'll ask you your goals as part of the consultation. You could say "I'd really like a huge squat and deadlift", and that should work. You'll likely also be given some upper body stuff (good for sure), but if you just half-ass arms, shoulders, dynamic abs, and forearms, while three-quarter-assing back and chest, you should get you what you want without outting yourself.

Plus its really hard work to grow muscle, so you'll have to work your ass on any way. It will likely be easier to fake training arms than it is to train your glutes hard, for example.

Good luck!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

i whine about workif i have to do another presentation for a huge group of people next week i am going to scream, it is so exhausting, i'm an hour into work and i feel like i need to sleep, AND i spent all day yesterday preparing for it too... i miss doing my "real job"

edit: also, i guess i'm channeling "Tim Allen's Neighbour" vibes today as I rearranged my desk and my webcam is behind my monitor, so only my eyes and up are visible when I turn it on, lmao.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

yep today was the second, i can't give an exact count of how many spoons this is all costing but it's high lol, especially when i only get a day or two to prepare

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago

I LOVE MY TRANS COMRADES

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