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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Like this means anything other than they are abject failures in engaging new voters

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At a certain point they're gonna overplay their hand and people (not libs obviously but people capable of complex thought) are going to completely write off anybody putting out endless articles that boil down to "don't support genocide? Here's why you're worse than people who do!"

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (4 children)

A Biden for Trump is a vote for vote. The more you Trump the less you vote.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The less you vote, the better you feel.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

so lets have beans for every meal

bean

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

has any voter ever gone to trump biden do vote more like?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Vote Trump Biden for. Biden for Trump vote is a vote for vote.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

All toasters toast toast

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago

I will vote for Biden once for each of the beheaded babies he saw, so I will vote for him zero times

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don't think you need a PhD in statistics to understand that you can't reverse causality like this

Being a liberal causes you to vote =/= voting causes you to be a liberal

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

he's just making the descriptive observation, not making a prescriptive claim, right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If the average person read “the more basketballs you shoot, the more you are an NBA player” I think many would read it as a causal relationship that operates at the individual level.

I mean strictly speaking it’s not incorrect, but I just know this author wants to scare people into voting as if it affects their political views.

When Marx said, ”the human essence is no abstraction inherent in each single individual. In its reality it is the ensemble of social relations,” I think it’s coming from a similar standpoint of incommensurability between aggregates and individuals. There may be an “average voter” as a statistical object, but it does not exist as a real individual.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

i appreciate the comment. i don't know how i interpreted your comment, or how i ended up addressing it.

i think i agree with what you're saying, i'm surprised that the author would be attached to the headline, which is weirdly normatively charged, for what i assume is now a not unsurprising observation that recently lower turnout elections have swung the Dems way.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Am I supposed to be voting more than once?

Also I am voting, for Afroman

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you may vote multiple times. You can not vote for Biden which is a vote for Trump, as many times as you wish.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

just tell libs that every time they vote for biden you'll vote for trump three times

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

If you don't want Trump to win, vote for Afroman. A vote for Biden is a vote for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Well according to libs not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump.

Which means not voting for Trump is also a vote for Biden.

Which means if you don't vote for either of them you actually voted twice.

Which means you're half as likely to support Trump as the liberals who just voted ONCE by simply voting for Biden.

I'm starting to think their logic may be flawed here.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

so the more you vote the more you back biden, so by voting for trump you are actually voting for biden more than you are voting for trump imaginator

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Amazed how that was swept under the rug by liberals when Bernie would get crucified for using the word “black.”

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

I had always planned on voting, just not for Biden. I'll be voting PSL if they're on my ballot, and writing in some joke about my balls or asshole if they aren't.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't exactly get what's surprising about the "my optics are flinging poop" guy pulling more nonvoters than the bloodless donor class appeaser.

Also Dems should be fucking scared how strongly their success with PoC voters is tied to these people being regulars at the polls. The "has voted 0-2 times" set includes a ton of young people who haven't been of voting age for 12 years, and these are overrepresented among nonwhite demographics.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Yeah the data here for Hispanics should be a giant alarm going off for the party.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Ah but by not voting for Trump, I'm voting for Biden. In fact, I'm not voting every single day. You're welcome liberals, you mask-off fascist ghouls.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Absolutely clownshoes country

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

so the democratic party is now the party that benefits most from low voter turnout - how democratic

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Explains why Trump got 0 votes in 2016. After all, if he got any votes it would feedback and he would have gotten INT_MAX instead.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Well duh, most Republicans don't give a shit about local politics because they already hold most of those seats because they overwhelmingly outnumber Democrats outside of cities

This is like looking at the sea and going "The more time you spend in the water, the more likely you like to swim"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

okay, so as someone with a liberal MA in 4d critical voting theory, what this essentially means is that anyone who wants four more years of biden should stay home in november so that biden will have more support among non voters. that way, the power of not voting shifts so that not voting for trump becomes a vote for biden, and votes that are not cast in the physical space are not bound be the limitations of the ballot-box, meaning that you can vote for biden several times by not voting for trump

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

So if I don't vote I'm a Trump supporter but don't support him enough to vote for him, but also by not voting for Biden I am voting for Trump even though I'm not actually voting at all, so despite the fact that I'm apparently a Trump supporter, not voting apparently helps him and hurts Biden?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I didn't read the article but maybe the writer has discovered quantum mechanics politics.

Look, people on social media made fun. But in my article I demonstrated the reality and consequences of QMP. It exists. It's real. In the language of ordinary people "It's a thing."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

The fundamental problem here (besides assuming people are being honest about how many times they’ve voted in recent elections) is that the nature of the most recent elections skews the results. 2018 (Trump midterm), 2020 (get the dang Cheeto out plus COVID backlash) and 2022 (Dobbs backlash) were all big democrat turnout years whereas the MAGA crowd were only super activated by 2020 with Trump on the ballot, 2022 to a lesser extent with Let’s Go Brandon but not bringing out the Trump-only voters.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

So Trump is bringing out the disaffected people who usually abstain? That in itself should be a huge red flag about us politics as a whole, and really speaks to the whole fascism vs socialism issues were increasingly coming towards, as more and more people come to realize that the status quo is untenable (and are desperately latching onto whatever offramp there is, unfortunately we're not being given another choice besides proto-fascism)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well then... if not voting is a vote for Trump and voting for Trump is a vote for Trump... then he's 100% going to win and there's no reason to vote for Biden. 'Cause "not voting" is what the vast majority of the USA voting population does every year.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Voting for Biden is basically like voting third party, which is basically the same as voting for Trump

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Sounds like Trump is more appealing than Biden to nonvoters. Fortunately DNC strategists have long confirmed that nonvoters are a small and insignificant portion of the electorate. To preserve democracy, maybe the Democrats should just start purging the voter roles to keep all those unreliable irregular voters from compromising the democratic process with their irresponsible votes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Wow, that makes Hexbear bigger Trump supporters than die hard Trump voters. MAGA chuds have got to step it up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Liberals thinking you can vote more than once if you care badly enough. "I'm gonna vote sooooooo hard!!"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lol if your base is voting more and you still fail to some bubba who shows up once in a blue moon to drop a ballot, you’re a complete and utter failure of a party and politician and you deserve to get your ass kicked for complaining to me about it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

this is why i vote 5 times every election and those votes are third party so both sides can claim those votes were actually for the other guy so its really like 15 votes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Joke's on them. I've been vote for Bernie at least once a month since 2016.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Near future NYT op-ed

How ziggurter is singlehandedly destroying the Democratic party's 2024 hopes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I knew there had to still be a way I can die happy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

In that case voter suppression is a good thing for the democrats, and they should welcome it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Holy shit, someone suffering from TDS is more likely to vooooote? Someone give this guy a nobel prize

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