I think the under 45 participation rate will be so low that Trump will actually get more support than Biden, because at least his base loves him.
Can't wait for the endless think pieces about how young people are conservative π
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I think the under 45 participation rate will be so low that Trump will actually get more support than Biden, because at least his base loves him.
Can't wait for the endless think pieces about how young people are conservative π
Can't wait for the endless think pieces about how young people are conservative
Oh, god. The NYT all by itself will publish scores of op-eds, think pieces, and even articles "explaining" the phenomenon. And all them will be high up on the homepage.
Over 45 Libs (and a lot of people under that age too) really think that they can just say "trump bad, trump worse" to every criticism because to them the break with norms is so shocking that they can't get over it. They think everyone cares about this aesthetic shit as much as they do.
For people who's formative years were around the george w admin we saw a president who did unspeakably terrible things but the libs give him credit because he went to the correspondents dinner and took it on the chin. They really can't understand that we're looking past the optics, we know it's all a charade and we care about what's behind it.
In the defense of people over 45 they think that because it worked on them for the last 3 decades and they never had the thought of "Maybe the guy whose promised me if I vote for him things will get better for 30 years is actually also full of shit."
So far we have the whole stimulus check debacle, no student loan forgiveness, banning TikTok, and now his steadfast determination to enable genocide in Palestine. I'm sure there is a lot more. I don't know what he has done for young people except belittle causes and issues that are important to them
I'm probably not voting at all, but Id vote 3rd party again if I did.
Remember when Feinstein told a bunch of literal children to fuck off when they confronted her about climate change? Children with existential dread is not a thing the world should tolerate yet the crusty old dinosaur was indifferent. That's the democratic party in a nutshell. They can't even pretend to care.
Literally watching children come to terms with the contradictions of liberal democracy.
"Wait, 'we dont all want to die in the water wars' isn't a legitimate reason to do something?"
It's happening with the college protests too. They were taught that peaceful protest was a right and a good thing to do to combat injustice. Then some meatloaf human with a badge tackles them at their own school. I hope a good percentage of these young people get radicalized enough to bully me for being a lib.
He started off saying he has no synpathy for the problems faced by young people and telling billionaires nothing will fundamentally change.
He was cooked from the start he just worked harder than most of the baby leftists who tried really really hard to give him a pass but he kept doubling down and reiterating that he detests them and doesn't care what they think and would never even consider comprimising with them let alone working with them.
He started at zero and has been digging as hard as he can since then.
He barely beat trump, only because Trump killed 2 million Americans to own the libs, and since then has done everyrhing he can to convince anybody who cares about workers right, the environment, or not committing genocide to not vote for him.
Just look at the current liberal memes that are literally "ok Biden is doing a genocide but if Trump wins he'll do even more genocide"
Gotta vote for Biden so Trump doesn't bomb the rubble.
He was also getting destroyed in the polls until Obama made the perfect phone call
Obummer putting his thumb on the scales only to make things worse is very on-brand. Like how the NBA was gonna strike over black lives matter and then he called up some of the players and talked them out of it. Can you imagine the amount of attention they could have brought to the issue? Big names, immensely popular figures, role models to children, an industry worth billions and billions in cash. Goddamn him.
It would have been cool if those players stood their ground too. Not blaming them, because I don't know how the phone call(s) went down.
"you uhhh saw what we did to Kobe, right?"
Biden's still favored to win on all the betting markets.
I'm guessing Dems will laser-focus on women's health, pretending they weren't responsible for anything lost while they controlled all 3 branches of federal government. Of course they won't mention the hospitals where their bombs are dropping nor the arab women who are giving birth while literally dead in the street. But the advertisements will be convincing!
Biden's still favored to win on all the betting markets.
Literally how is this possible lol. I just checked and Trump is at 29.4%, seems like easy money to me. You'd think they would have learned after 2016.
Biden 54 cents - Trump 45 cents on predictit (pres winner pays $1)
lmao betting markets.
Biden is going to lose, itβs that simple. The genocide alone is enough to make him lose Michigan, Georgia was a razor thin margin that wonβt happen again, and Trump leads in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Arizona.
The first two plus any one of the last three is enough for Trump to win.
Heβs done next to nothing to actually help people while instead sending hundreds of billions to Ukraine and Israel. We are closer to WW3 now than at any other point this century, and he bears much of the blame.
Not that polls are perfect but the last one I saw Trump was winning in every single swing state
Im in this demographic.
Im not voting.
C'mon at least write in Stalin
I'll show up to vote on local candidates and referendums but I'm writing in "Free Palestine" for president and I suggest anyone else going to the polls do the same.
I'm writing in Aaron Bushnell π«‘
I legitimately wasn't going to vote but this is now what my plan is
Yeah the move is to vote, just not for Biden. Clearer what you're trying to communicate, harder to ignore.
Cmon, just like republicans count 'Jesus' as a repub vote, 'Stalin' is also counted as democrat
banning the platform where they've watched him egg on and fund genocide after a year of that is like committing youth seppuku.
Zoomers: We're never going to vote for you, you genocidal geezer.
Biden: You're right Jack, you'll never vote for me and anyone else ever again.
declares martial law
Can't wait to laugh my ass off at Biden losing and cry my ass off at all of us being forced to live in turbo-hell where everything continually gets worse
I've been living in turbo hell where everything keeps getting worse for decades.
The only difference is when a dem is president all the chuds around me feel the need to tell me about how they're going to murder people like me.
at all of us being forced to live in turbo-hell where everything continually gets worse
45+ are afraid they'll lose their social security but 45- know they'll probably never get it anyways.
Idk. American elections are really unpredictable and very close. This is not a defense of Biden or Trump just that it's like not very different from flipping a coin.
Turnouts going to be lower that's for sure.
this is my last election as an under 45, but i haven't voted for a major party for El Presidente since Obozo's first term, let me be clear. i thought he was gonna close gitmo.
i work with a bunch of PMC types in the non profit / give a fuck sector, so they are generally younger than me by 10-20 years. there are only a few committed turbolibs, who like brag about their connections to the local DNC franchise. legit cringe. i think probably there's a chunk that are more fearful of another trump term than a biden term and don't see a path out, though we all live in a safely red state with just a handful of electoral votes anyway so the emotional investment is non existent for anyone with a functioning mind. so basically, the bulk of the over 45 professionals are all visibly wigging the fuck out about another trump term, to our incredulity. i bet if i told any of the well remunerated / wealthy Gen Xers that i wasn't gonna vote for biden, they would burst a blood vessel.
what would be amusing to me would be if biden loses, but the dems pick up seats in the house and senate that some kind of antagonistic coalition can form with the numbers to override presidential vetos and fuck with the courts. i don't think it's feasible and would probably only do terrible things, but it would be funny.
Biden loses in the popular vote, but wins in the electoral college. The Republicans say the election was stolen and Trump posts on his social media that the Republicans should abolish the electoral college, but nothing happens.
I keep seeing this here and as much as it would be funny there's literally no chance that happens.
The EC is explicitly set up to give lower population (republican) states more influence.
Unless California and New York catch Trump fever and everybody form "real america" decides to overwhelmingly vote for the perosn they've been screaming is a communist for a decade this is never ever going to happen.
Don't be silly, this is America! No one under the age of 45 exists! that's why we put in so much effort causing the housing crisis! We helped all you homeowners BuIlD yOuR wEaLtH! Why aren't you happy?
Besides, I'm sure those young'uns LIKE being basement dwellers anyways!
It really is the split where people stop getting their news from major networks/cable and start getting it online.
Biden is toast...
Homie, Biden smells toast on the daily.
I was just watching UCLA protest video where someone of the zionist side pulled out a Trump flag. No significant negative reaction from anyone on the zionist side. Support for Israel's genocide is support for Trump. Biden is voting for Trump. :vote: Blue No Matter Genocide
To the people saying they will not vote, why not vote for De la Cruz? Even if you don't like the PSL, it's better than voting blank?
I'm the campaign volunteer coordinator for the campaign in Akron, Ohio (don't scold me about doxxability, I don't care, my name, address, and party affiliation is a matter of public record). The PSL and the De La Cruz campaign is the only serious contender in the country.
I do truly believe that almost all Communist orgs out there are fundamentally full of well-meaning people, but at least outside of New York and L.A., the PSL is the only nationwide Marxist-Leninist org putting the effort into actually being nationwide. I've been out canvassing for the last few weeks to get our girlbosses on the ballot and I haven't seen nor heard of any other organized petitioning (that wasn't literally just one crank super into Jasmine Sherman or Marianne Williamson or some other deeply unserious joke candidate).
Though winning would be great, the best thing about volunteering for the campaign is that it's a great way to get involved in your local branch without having to become a member. Protests are loud and impersonal, but going canvassing with your other CK24 canvassers can help you get to know your local PSL branch (and while I stand by the PSL as a whole and my local branch, like any other org not all locals are created equal). I have gotten to know so many great people who would never have spontaneously decided to join "the Tankie Party" but were attracted to the party through CK24 being the most active Socialist alternative campaign.
The thing the PSL has that none of these other campaigns (Sherman, West, Williamson, Stein, Kennedy) do is dozens or hundreds of disciplined comrades in every state and major city ready to organize and lead a campaign without being beholden to big donors or the Democratic Party apparatus. No other org has anything close to this.
I think heβs definitely toast with any voters under 25. Beyond that it gets a bit harder to say. I think heβs definitely wildly unpopular with most folks under 45 but they might just vote for him to vote against Trump. It comes down to whether people view their vote as a personal endorsement of a candidate, in which case they wonβt vote for him, or as a defense against Trump, in which case they will not. If I had to guess today, Iβd say Biden wins the popular vote by a slimmer margin than what Hillary won by in 2016 but then loses the electoral college because of lower turnout in the same key states that Hillary lost.
Iβm still not totally convinced that the democrats care too much about winning. Youβd think they would wait a few months until after the election to discuss stuff like the Tik tok ban or even additional funds to Israel. It really feels like theyβre looking for ways to self sabotage so we get trump, at which point theyβll blame the left/young people. Weβll see what these next few months look like.
IDK this country has a massive cuckholdery to the Democrat Republican clown show. I don't see them moving to the Green Party or PSL in numbers that one would think would send a message. There's non insignificant support for dynasty establishment troll RFK Jr. So if those people don't channel this fustration into a relavant supporting party such as Green or PSL save an armed revolution nothing will fundementally change and the cycle of D/R clownshow continues.
Edit - all the people not voting it's like just rolling over for the Empire. Passive acceptance / consent. Surrender. No vote. No right to complain.