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President Biden’s policy agenda is incredibly popular, much more popular than his opponent’s. But Biden the man? Not so much.

The question now is whom to blame for the approval gap between the president and his agenda: voters, the media or Biden himself.

Democrats have long argued that their policies are more popular than those of Republicans. In a recent blind test conducted by YouGov, that was unmistakably true. The polling organization asked Americans what they thought about major policies proposed by Biden and Donald Trump without specifying who proposed them. The idea was to see how the public perceived ideas when stripped of tribal associations.

Biden’s agenda was the winner, hands down.

Of the 28 Biden proposals YouGov asked about, 27 were supported by more people than opposed them. Impressively, 24 received support from more than 50 percent of respondents.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

So I just want to be clear about something. Press Secretary, Jean-Pierre said yesterday (as she often repeats per their messaging): "Biden's record speaks for itself."

I want to go like, "Hi, Press Secretary. Quick follow-up: If it speaks for itself, then why is Biden losing in every battleground state with an aggregate national approval rating of 37%?"

It doesn't seem that letting it speak for itself is working.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

America wants socialism, but our two parties and their donors rather have fascism.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

America unironically thinks socialism is when the government does stuff.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, technically it is. But so is fascism. Both have the government tightly controlling everything, including industry. But socialism/communism (in theory) works for the good of the many, while fascism always only works for the good of the few.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago
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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Good, because an adult knows that a presidency is not a single man - it's a philosophy, vision and general momentum towards a set of policies.

[-] [email protected] 70 points 2 days ago

If only he were part of a political party that could execute policy matters without him, as opposed to solely developing and passing legislation and department policy by hand...

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Is this a joke? Doesn't he need to be popular to win "most important election of our life time"?

I knew there was going to be damage control from DNC. I just didn't guess their damage control would be insane.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I don't think this is damage control. I mean maybe the timing of the article is but we've known for a long time that progressive policies are favored by a majority of Americans but progressive politicians aren't.

Not that Biden is progressive. But next to conservative regression anything will look progressive.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

He's only unpopular because of bots, trolls, and the likes of fox "news". He's what AMERICA needed after having a child with 34 felonies ruling by incompetence and revenge for four sad years.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Imagine picking a Democratic candidate that can't even handle the bullshit from fox news and then acting all surprised when his polls start to tank.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

hes mostly unpopular because the media dosnt cover 90% of the shit he does, and what they do cover they cover vaguely and don't credit him, because the media is heavily invested in another trump win because trump winning brings in ratings as people tune in every day to see what new horror he has released upon society, like they did in his first term.

Broadcast media has too much vested in a trump win to ever give biden appropriate coverage.

Its why all teh coverage of the debate was "BIDEN OLD, MUST QUIT" and almost nothing about trumps lies or the CNN moderator just letting trump go.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Just curious, what percentage of Americans do you think are under the influence of Russian bots? Because roughly a third voted for Trump and roughly a third didn't vote, add in third party voters and I'm pretty sure that would mean a supermajority of Americans are Russian assets, which is a fascinating perspective.

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[-] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago

It doesn't matter. The average voter is functionally illiterate.

They'd vote for the candidate "they'd have a beer with". They can't understand anything about policy

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

To be fair "have a beer with" is about trust.

If I can't sit down with you, have a beer, and enjoy myself, I can't trust you. A president is going to encounter unknown challenges and I need to trust them to solve it.

That being said Trump fails that test immediately. There is no version of "having a beer" with Trump where I could trust him.

Biden however? If you asked the average American what they know about Biden one of the top three answers is "having a beer", it's called "grabbing an ice cream" but the principal is the same.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

I’m pretty sure I’d have a better time having a beer with Biden, even if he’s asleep, than Trump.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

If the average voter is so stupid, why can't the democrats figure out how to appeal to them? Are democrats just too smart? Well I guess we're going to smart our way into fascism then!

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[-] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago

To be clear: these were policy proposals, not actual policies put in place by either candidate.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

That's what this articles is about, but policies passed during the Biden admin have also been popular, though according to these sources some not well advertised enough.

https://navigatorresearch.org/one-year-after-passage-the-inflation-reduction-act-maintains-broad-support/

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/politics/bipartisan-infrastructure-bill-poll-support/index.html

https://apnews.com/article/poll-ukraine-aid-congress-b772c9736b92c0fbba477938b047da2f

I tried but it's harder to find polling on very specific executive department actions and regulations though, like the SAVE student loan repayment plan changes for example. So harder to say on those.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

The reporters sensed it instantly. Even though the 90-minute debate was only seconds old, they felt it was already over... He had not been warm. He had not been likable. He had not shown emotion. He had merely shown principle.

In 1988 Michael Dukakis had his campaign torpedoed by poor debate performance when ~~asked~~ ambushed with a hard gotcha question.

Another candidate might have survived that first question and answer. But not Dukakis. It devastated him because his coldness was already an issue.

And it is the same with Biden. The biggest anxiety of both his supporters and haters was demonstrated on national television. How do I defend that when arguing with people about who to vote for in the election?

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Mmm yes his policy on Israel has been a real acceptable one.

No complaints from the public whatsoever.

None at all.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

It might not but since you effectively have a binary choice, which Israeli policy do you prefer, Bidens or Trump.

if it's really a tie, then start looking at the other policies to see which is the lesser of the two evils.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

This whole goddamned news cycle is about how we don't have a binary choice. Or more accurately we could have a different binary choice. Biden isn't locked in. If the primary argument to vote is "Trump is worse", then it's not important that Biden be the candidate on the other side.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

President is two jobs. One is policy driven. One is being a leader. All president's have to do both, but arguably the latter is more important as president's can leave policy to aides and congress (and formerly the federal agencies, but that's gone now). The president is a communicator. Yes most voters like Biden policies, but they don't know they are Biden policies because Biden does not communicate that. In fact, in many congressional districts the Dem candidates are outperforming Biden while running on the same policies. You can't blame voters already burdened with living in this capitalist hell hole for not devoting hours into researching candidate policies.

In presidential politics, at the end of the day the buck stops with the candidate. Campaign aids and paid advertising and surrogates on TV can only do so much. You need the candidate to deliver, to speak directly to the voters, to make the case for why voters should choose them and their policies over the alternative. Biden is incapable of that.

It's Bidens fault.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Biden is a solid administrator, but a terrible campaigner / salesman. And the older he gets, the worse he gets at the latter. He’s always been bad at it, but these days he’s extra bad at it.

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