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Georgians get fast Hurricane aid from Biden and Harris … and it’s driving Trump crazy (www.nj.com)

submitted 2 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Georgia’s Republican governor praised Democratic President Joe Biden for reaching out to him in the wake of Hurricane Helene’s deadly devastation as the state and surrounding areas scramble to recover from the disaster.

Former President Donald Trump told a different story when he landed there to survey the damage.

“The governor’s doing a very good job. He’s having a hard time getting the president on the phone,” Trump told reporters. “The federal government is not being responsive.”

It wasn’t true.

Here’s what Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp had to say about Biden and the feds:

“The president just called me yesterday afternoon. I missed him and called him right back and he just said, ‘Hey, what do you need?’ And I told him, ‘We got what we need. We’ll work through the federal process. He offered that if there’s other things we need just to call him directly, which I appreciate that,” Kemp said.

“We’ve had FEMA embedded with us since a day or two before the storm hit in our state operating center in Atlanta. We’ve got a great relationship with them,” he said.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Remember when trump threatened to withhold aid to Californians impacted by a disaster because their governor didn’t kiss the ring with enough gusto?

As we have to deal with progressively worse disasters due to climate change, some morons want to vote for the guy that will refuse to help their own communities if his arse isn’t kissed enough.

If you live in an area that will be hit with such disasters and are still considering voting for this lunatic, you deserve what’s coming to you. But consider that your sane neighbours won’t deserve the consequences of your actions, and will be entirely justified to refuse to help you when your orange god hangs you out to dry.

[–] [email protected] 283 points 2 days ago (1 children)

and yet, Georgia republicans are going to vote for the asshole that wants to eliminate FEMA and NOAA.

fuckers.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Not eliminate, just privatize and make money off of it by stiffing every person, company, and publicly owned... Oh wait yeah, just hurting everyone.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If the agencies were privatized, they would cease to exist. That is. Eliminated.

You don’t get privatized health care from the government, either.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doubt they would eliminate the names, that would hurt the "creditibility" beholden by the names they would want to use for their gain. I think it would go more like Amtrak, or the Prison systems. Destroying the pieces they don't want, and making profits off the parts they can. Slowly pushing their agendas hiding behind the name of something they can use a disguise while most of the country never recognizes it changed. The parts they can't profit off of they would leave as a burden to the people, and the profitable and influencial parts they will strip and grab.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay, but they literally said they would eliminate them in Project 2025. It's being awful generous to claim they only want to do the lite version of eliminate. Boil the frog is over, MAGA is masks off crazy. They probably won't be able to do it, because odds are good that the House at least will be blue in 2025 thanks to some of the more egregious gerrymanders getting fixed, but that doesn't mean they don't openly want to do it. These people are not smooth operators stealing brand awareness, they are chimpanzees flinging shit at the wall

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where in Project 2025 do they say that? Because it says to break it up and commercialize it everywhere I have seen. So I am saying why that it bad, not just making up that they said to eliminate it where I haven't seen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Dang, you're right, I was wrong. It calls for NWS to be commercialized, which could technically be interpreted as either sell off the assets to weather.com or as lay off all the employees and pay weather.com 10x their salary in contracts to get the same product. It calls for NOAA to be downsized alongside NWS' commercialization. It calls for FEMA to pay much less out to states and eliminate its preparedness grants and insurance programs. All that in mind, it kind of seems tailor made to specifically fuck over Florida and other hurricane/flooding prone states, but it doesn't call for eliminating the agencies. My bad, thanks for the correction!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

You sir, are a good person. I will forever be in your gratitude for following up in research. I always try to follow truth within my arguments. You today helped me know I didn't lie. Thank you

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh wait yeah, just hurting everyone.

You're forgetting the handful of people that will profit wildly from this, so technically not everyone...just most (99.9% +/-)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

It doesn’t hurt any people, in their eyes we’re just living human capital.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Outrageous. Republicans would never withhold important info about a disaster just to make a quick buck!

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But all I'm hearing at work today is "Biden won't help the hurricane victims! Elon and Trump are teaming up to provide relief, but Kamalala and Biden told them to get a job!!!" I hate this place so much. Trump just lies and they eat it up.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Twitter bots started in on that shit before the damn rain stopped and haven't stopped since. At this point Twitter's living in a goddamn fantasy world. "Where's Biden? He hasn't done ANYTHING!" Meanwhile he issued several emergency declarations? "Where's Kamala in all this? This is her problem!" ...is it? What's with Twitter bots acting like Kamala Harris is already the President?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

What’s with Twitter bots acting like Kamala Harris is already the President?

That's the new attack line...the absolutely stupid charge that "Harris had 3.5 years to accomplish her presidential agenda while VP. Why didn't she accomplish it yet?"...and a large portion of the country will probably buy it as a fair critique (because they're idiots) despite it being obviously nonsensical.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Start laughing when they say something like that. Wait until they ask why and say I've heard exactly the opposite. It wont convince many but a few might stop watching dubious sources long enough to find out it isn't true. It the old its easier to fool someone than convince them they have been fooled.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh man, if you've never worked in an environment like that where you're outnumbered, you probably don't understand why this is would be really tough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm a non religious, non regressive person in a southern state. I know how to make them think once. That usually leads to them thinking twice. I've worked in those environments often. You can't fix stupid but you can at least correct ignorance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's easier said than done, for many people. A lot of people prefer to avoid potential confrontation. It's sensible to the individual, but it does end up enabling the spread of disinformation as a result.

A good tip for these situations is to make it seem like you just figured something out. Go, "Wait..." and look like you're confused and thinking about it. Then slowly mention each point, laying out them out like puzzle pieces. Finally, and carefully, put it all back together to make the logical result.

Personally, I've dealt with these conflicts throughout my life (yay for autism!) and have had to learn how to handle them through trial and error. In my experience, having a positive reputation with whoever you're talking to makes your words much more powerful. Those of you who've stayed quiet (or at least, apolitical) til now may already have a big leg up on this. Also if you've never stepped in when a group is spreading disinformation, you may end up making a bigger impact than you expect. It's like when a quiet character in a show suddenly speaks up - you pay more attention, feeling that they're about to say something important.

One last thing - don't expect to change minds immediately. It takes time to process things, especially when one is confronted with logic that contradicts their beliefs. Sometimes it takes a few days, sometimes it takes a few years. Nonetheless, the more seeds of reason we sow, the better the chances that some will sprout.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know when the person I'm dealing with is a lost cause. I also know that suppressing my opinion for their fragile feels will never be to my advantage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh yes, that's an important point. There's no sense in talking to a brick wall.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I’m sorry that you work somewhere that has that sort of discourse going on. Sounds super draining.

[–] solarvector 91 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't look like it's driving him crazy. He just lies about it, half of his supporters believe him, and the other half believe "in spirit". Seems pretty normal.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That seems like a good way to describe that level of devotion--believing him "in spirit".

While some are doing keg-stands with the Kool-Aid, others such as these believers 'in spirit' are just casually sipping a Kool-Aid cocktail to be social and/or fit in (or perhaps have succumbed to peer pressure, etc)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Scott Adams calls these sorts of lies "directionally true"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meh, he's a piece of shit these days himself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, yes, that was sort of the point. He's so die hard MAGA that even when faced with a hateful and demonstrably false statement, he still calls it "directionally" true, which is even worse than any of the corporate misspeak he ever made fun of in his days of popularity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Ah I apologize, I read your comment as citing him for his witty euphemism, not as calling him out for his maga-ness.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (2 children)

On X the MAGA people are constantly saying how Biden did nothing, but the fact is two days before he acted to help the people that were effected.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago

the fact is

Well there's your problem...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

They'll never hear about it.

I guarantee the media they are listening to showed them this:

“The governor’s doing a very good job. He’s having a hard time getting the president on the phone,” Trump told reporters. “The federal government is not being responsive.”

But never showed them this:

“The president just called me yesterday afternoon. I missed him and called him right back and he just said, ‘Hey, what do you need?’ And I told him, ‘We got what we need. We’ll work through the federal process. He offered that if there’s other things we need just to call him directly, which I appreciate that,” Kemp said.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did he launch paper towels to the needy this time?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

No, but that same dude launched chicken tenders at a crowd over the weekend.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would you look at that, a actually functioning government!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

WHY ISN'T BIDEN DOWN THERE THROWING PAPER TOWEL ROLLS AT THE GEORGIANS!?! /s

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Good, let the Orange Shit Stain cry more.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Republicans are KNOWN to do Their Own Research so they'll OBVIOUSLY find out they're being Lied to! OBVIOUSLY!

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