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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean, it wouldn't have happened if it was treated as an actual somber moment instead of a star-spangled spit-shine that ended up in two wars and millions of innocent people killed and injured, and marked the point for most kids that nothing was ever going to be good again!

So yeah

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and marked the point for most kids that nothing was ever going to be good again!

no that was 2008

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

for those kids it was, for these kids now its covid, and for the next kids it'll be their whole state burning down or country flooding or when all the crops fail or it just kind of stops rainingjoker-shopping

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think most of the economic woes of the present are still largely results of 2008 and austerity

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I won a lot of free popularity points by letting kids vent about the silly performative PATRIOT DAY bullshit going on around them and even muttered a glib "nevar forget" pronounced exactly that way, letting them know I was tired of that shit too in a plausibly deniable way (administration would lose their shit if I didn't seem "patriotic" enough otherwise).

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To really win kids over, say "too soon" with a silly look on your face when they dunk on PATRIOT DAY. the-more-you-know

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

"But Mr. Principal, I did my patriotic duty and reminded them that it was too soon." troll tails-trolled

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes... it's only hilarious to the kids

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lmao, for real. my mid 40s older aister, out of nowhere earlier this summer, described something funny (like a movie) as "better than 9-11". cracked me up.

the only people getting choked up about this cultural moment anymore and celebrating patriotism about it while everything has become so obviously a shit show here are absolute rubes.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I can’t believe you just called my parents rubes.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

A joke I remember from the 12th of September 2001.

What was the last meal served at the WTC Burger King?

Two flaming tower burgers.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Me explaining the cultural and emotional impact of 9/11 to young Americans:

Imagine two burgers

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Now imagine muslamic style individuals smashing planes into the burgers

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That feel when feeling somber.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Damn that's good

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These are the people complaining that kids are sensitive snowflakes

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

It's hard to find more delicate and fragile people than those that rage about "sensitive snowflakes." grill-broke

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thanks, I replied to that thread with this:

My friend.

These kids grew up watching a weekly to daily 9/11 happening around them, in the form of 7 million global deaths from COVID, treated again and again as a total joke. Half the population essentially won't even admit it's real, and even the people who admit it's real tend to have not taken it very seriously at all.

They were constantly threatened for a huge part of their childhood, a lot of them have dead relatives including dead parents, and it's still doing a 9/11 a month just in the US. And 75% of the ones with dead parents gave COVID to their parents because they were forced into a goddamn classroom.

How could they take this seriously? Ask yourself, what makes you feel somber about it- is it the number of deaths? No of course it's not the number of deaths - so what is it? Could it be that you absorbed a cultural phenomenon over the last 22 years that they weren't exposed to? Don't you think maybe you were acculturated into tearing up and saluting so you'd maybe get thirsty for the blood of innocent Muslims?

Not to mention it happened before they were born. You don't give a shit about the Boxer Rebellion, that doesn't make you cry. So why would they care about this overused blip on the radar?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You brigaded Reddit? Clearly leftism has gone too far. I'll see you extremists at the Hague!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was also a maybe-later-kiddo whataboutism! How abso fucking loutely DARE they?!? Don't they know that helps trumputler?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

soypoint-1 whataboutism soypoint-2

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Not to mention this kids living day to day in a climate disaster that all their relatives and societies just choose to ignore and fly to burning islands to "unwind" instead.

Wish someone would ask people like this why they are so desensitized that they just keep doing what they have always done when people are literally getting killed by pavements now.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, some of them care very much about the Boxer Rebellion and fantasize about invading China again

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me and my Boxer Bros dreaming about rising up and expelling the foreign devils again.

sicko-wistful

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Expel the foreign devils? mao-wave I did that already

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

[–]Spartanfred104 237 points 8 hours ago What grade? My 10 year old niece in Canada even does a moment of silence and it isn't memes.

If this is true ...

walter-breakdown

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

It's either some Rod and Todd styled weiner kids or Flag-brained parents forcing some brainwashing on that poor girl

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

silently mouthing "rip in pepperonis" pizza-dance

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit went from ranting about boomers complaining about Millennials to doing the same thing with Gen Z.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Redditors smugly think they're different from every preceeding generation since time immemorial, then do the exact same thing as those generations.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

to be fair thats what all of the previous generations did

(the ones affluent and influentual enough culturally to be the guiding force for the times, of course)

Im too lazy to find it but that one whiney ass fucking article some loser wrote in like 1820 about how "kids these days are too busy reading dang ol BOOKS to LOOK OUT THE DAMN WINDOW like we did in our day!" and the way he talks about it is like every fucking white 54 year old complaining about anything ever

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

an adult who's still choked up about 9/11.... just when I think I understand Americans. like 60% of their ideology and culture and way of life depends on not giving a shit about 1) historical events that happened in the past, 2) stuff that happened "over there"- and for most of the country New York/DC is "over there". honestly

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

ah, but on that day, we were all new yorkers

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

bout to 9/11 on these kids fr

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

they have to understand that these kids only memories of 9/11 is the massive overreaction

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

loooooool cry more

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never lived in USA and it feels weird for me to joke around other country's tragic event.

That being said, (dark) comedy is a common way of facing tragedy and I also can see why many USA citizens are desensitized on this event. For what I can grasp the reaction was so overly exaggerated that people have had enough.

Don't get me wrong: it was a tragedy, but it's silly to expect everyone to feel personally affected to THAT level even after decades (and most without even knowing one of the victims).

I'm pretty sure that even in that year many citizens might have moved on kinda soon and didn't care THAT much, but would keep quiet to avoid drama. At some point the edgy comedians made people realize not caring THAT much was pretty common and even the kids started openly joking about it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

I think there is an additional dissonance considering the US let a million+ and more of its own citizens die from Covid but we still commemorate the victims of 9/11 as the greatest evil done to the country in recent memory. (That's how I also know Americans don't really believe the claims against China being the origin, producer, and disseminator of the pandemic)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Hell yeah, from the thread:

Honestly? I’ve asked some kids why they think it’s a joke and some of them have said “it’s not 9/11 itself that’s funny, it’s the fact that so many of you worship it.” They see that we act like it made us come together and want to fix things, but they also see the authoritarian hellscape we live in that’s their only lived experience and some of them have pieced together they’re related.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

"NEVER FORGET" cried the patriots
but on that day a monkey's paw curled joker-trolltrollpicard-trollgarf-troll

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Get over it loser

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