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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Actually, Lavrov did not said that sanctions will be lifted, he said that there will no be new sanctions

Here's the video: https://t.me/zarubinreporter/1302

He's saying here as an answer to "Why Russia is sanctioning DPRK?" basically this: "Russia wasn't sanctioning DPRK, Security Council was. Sanctions were implemented in completely different enviroment, and, as always, the West did not do anything on their part what we were agreing on. Russia and China were lied to, and the West is suppling weapons to South Korea, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE AGREED WITH CHINA THAT THERE WILL NO BE NEW SANCTIONS ON DPRK"

By the way, I have limited knowledge of English, and also were writing basic meaning of his words, not literal translation

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thank you, I thought this was unfortunately unrealistic and I was right to hold my hype back. Sad but at least they won't add more sanctions.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

It's actually more than that, it means that they plan on increasing bilateral trade and economic ties in a massive way such that the old sanctions will become increasingly obsolete as they will simply develop more and more ways of circumventing them.

In effect the sanctions will still be there (because it's virtually impossible to lift Security Council sanctions ever as the West has veto power) but they will be an empty formality. Make no mistake, these developments that we're seeing are HUGE.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Announcing this now though, is an indication of intentions. And the intentions are probably to raise trade with DPRK as a first stage. There's also a possibility that DPRK might attempt to join BRICS for trading.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Why exactly was China sanctioning the DPRK?

Also, good for them. The DPRK is a country of enormous potential ideology wise, people wise and resources wise.

[+] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

It is worth noting that even as China went along with sanctions, they were arguing for a gentler approach and I think successfully derailed a couple of escalation attempts by the US. They were probably scared of being pushed away from western Bloc countries if they sided too hard with the DPRK, however unjust that treatment of True Korea is.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even still, kinda odd that China would follow the sanctions on a neighboring country that is friendly to them. Glad to hear that things are changing

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

China has done some shady things when it comes to foreign policy. It's actually one of the main critiques I have of china, and while the foreign policy they conduct is far better than pre-Xi, is still far too conformist and 'pragmatic' for my liking, especially considering it'll benefit more nation's if china becomes more assertive.

From giving weapons to the Philippines government to fight Filipino revolutionaries, to its participation in the Nepalese civil war in the favour of the government, instead of the communists. Still I'm hopeful china will correct this mistake soon.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I think that China wasn't very pleased with the DPRK conducting nuclear tests and potentially harming Chinese soil and people. This isn't an issue anymore, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

China and Russia are on the security council, and could have vetoed them

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Misleading, see the other comments.

It was the Security Council sanctioning

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

China's stated reason for the sanctions is a policy of a de-nuclearized Korean peninsula. In theory, if the DPRK got nuclear weapons without Chinese opposition, there's nothing China can then say if the ROK pursued nuclear weapons in response.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire

Death to America kim-salute

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

DEATH TO AMERICA!!! 💖💖💖

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Juche gang rise up

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the US gets to use its nukes then the DPRK gets to use theirs, fair is fair.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A classic

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OH NO, THEY WERE SITTING IN ROWS, THIS IS FASCIST, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE DISORGANIZED AND THEY SHOULD HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MASS SHOOTINGS JUST LIKE IN THE UNITED SHITHOLE STATES OF AMERICA!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Sitting in rows??!? What totalitarianism is this

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

That kid: gigachad-hd

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

finally what the fuck

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Korea’s gonna be making jet engines again

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

USA hands were really long, and now they squandered it. Fucking finally.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Link for actual article?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

article here- mind the tone in this one. https://news.liga.net/en/amp/politics/news/lavrov-kontseptsiya-izmenilas-rf-bolshe-ne-podderjivaet-sanktsii-protiv-severnoy-korei

Here are the list of sanctions against them. https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/north-korea-sanctions-un-nuclear-weapons

here’s what i found so far. no new sanctions against them (russia vetoed last ones as well) and lifting some sanctions they imposed on them from 2006 because of nuclear program