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For those of you who were around for it - this is how it felt to be a leftist or even just a sane person during 9/11, right? Just watching everyone around you and in the media become consumed with psychotic bloodlust?

what's shocking to me is how utterly bloodthirsty they are - basically advocating for the wholesale murder of all Gazan inhabitants. what the fuck? what happened?

was there some sort of manchurian candidate-style trigger phrase that turned all of these people into genocide lovers overnight?

I haven't been this angry in a long time. the US is just as responsible for this as Israel is. Gaza is being eviscerated, completely leveled with the full support of the US and its allies - a resounding thumbs up to genocide and whatever crimes against humanity Israel wants to commit. there's not even a half-hearted "Israel needs to show restraint and only target military targets". they're leveling apartment buildings, hospitals, everything in sight and everyone's cool with it. all Biden has to say is his full support for Israel, Bernie and Fetterman the same, AOC is calling rallies for Palestine anti-semitic.

I feel really disgusted and ashamed to live in this country.

The dehumanization of Arabs generally and Palestinian's specifically has been ongoing for decades. A lot of westerners are very much primed for this.

I live in a reform Jewish hotspot. There is unironic usage of the term “kill em all” being bandied about

my partner who is in trade school right now was suprised to overhear a conversation where some guy was like "i used to support israel but.." and then had a bunch of good, pro-palestine takes. everyone there generally agreed with him. sure it's anecdotal but really makes me wonder how much of this is pure astroturfing and manufactured consent. also today my co-worker also felt me out a bit and then had good takes of his own about the situation.

I'm so deeply convinced that there's no hope whatsoever for the west until they experience deep and total humiliation and decades of poverty. Only then can they even start to grow a soul.

"The Palestinians are willing to kill civilians, so that gives us a right to kill them all."

Never will it be questioned whether this means the same thing about the Israelis. They fundamentally do not consider the Palestinian to be people. All the dead children in Gaza do not matter to them at all.

you see, when ukraine is full of nazis its OK because sometimes there are good nazis, but when you're pro-palestine you are a nazi which is always bad, because there's no such thing as a good nazi

I am very smart because I can hold these contradictions both in my brain and not have it melt into a puddle

yeah i dont know any poc personally supporting Israel and all the mayos ive explained things to, quickly give tentative support to Palestine. To be fair ive never had a productive conversation with a jewish person who wasnt already a communist, but maybe thats just not in my wheelhouse (i dont do well with people making purely emotional arguments, i just kinda shut down especially when people just start crying or spewing insults) , plus im trying to take a break from talking politics to white people but people keep reaching out to me to ask questions. its exhausting and feels pointless, but ive convinced/ further educated like 4 people this week.

80% of Reddit is more or less a CIA controlled psyop now with mods going full mask off in support of fascism. Just got banned from r/news for telling off someone who was in support of Israel destroying Palestine because and I quote "whenever they're sent as refugees anywhere they destroy the country they got to so deserve what they get", anyway told them to enjoy shining their Hitler youth badge for their next rally.

-edit: oh and also someone just replied to my other comment on Israeli settler colonialism and it was legit just a complete "well actually sweety how dare you think Israel is filled with white settlers, it's a very diverse oppressive state conducting a genocide!". Really wish I could ask them what the fuck happened to all the Ethiopian Jewish women that immigrated in and got sterilized and how they feel about that.

I've gone full doomer on North America (minus Mexico) and Europe. The wave of Nazi apologia followed immediately by the wave of support for an ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, is too much for me.

I think a lot of is rooted in American idea of colonialism, "Manifest Destiny", general Ann Rand style brain poisoning.

They see indigenous people as sub-human who aren't using the land they occupy properly. As such they believe its their right to take it from them cause they aren't "doing it right". Its our right to take from those we see as lesser. We have been doing in Africa and South America and much of Asia for decades. The American people see pretty much every non-western European nation as barbarians in the rhetorical sense. Uncultured savages who need to be either need to be broken or buried.

If some other people have what we want and they don't look some dude from the state of Maine we feel totally okay using every T-800 we have in our vast armory. Also no amount of capital vacuumed up for working people or the blood of the youth is too much to get it.

I also don't think people understand that Israel is client state, I also don't think most people don't understand what client state even is. Ukraine is my go-to example. Every single coin and bullet we have was sent to them no questions asked, and we will do the same thing to Israel. We will give them War Machine power-suits to destroy residential buildings and parks indiscriminately.

I really don't think people understand foreign policy at all. Nor understand that America is an empire and doing empire shit is bad. Pretty much every comfortable in the US is a warhawk the moment they understand its brown people or "The Reds".

It angers me that when this is over, either way it ends, none of these assholes now demonizing us will ever even apologize for being on the wrong side of history, let alone be held accountable for it. Pointing out that they supported Israel or both-sidesed Palestinian liberation will have the same exact impact as pointing out Iraq War supporters has now, which is fucking nothing. They'll get to walk it off and move onto the next invented reality, and we'll get to see it happen all over again.

This is one of those weeks when the internet is almost completely unusable.

I have a heavily curated internet experience in order to avoid being exposed to dogshit takes from Western liberals. Which means that large portions of the internet were already unusable for me. Tbh this is a great week to touch grass, if you can

I've mostly avoided mainstream news and social media since the attack started, and most of my social circle is other communists by this point, but even the stuff I've heard about secondhand has been horrifying. I don't envy anyone who's forced by social obligation to spend time listening to that shit.

the past month has given me whiplash and I now exist in a permanent state of dizzy rage

this is why i don't go outside and i'm only engaging with the topic here and by watching hasan do coverage

All my lib friends and acquaintances are “standing with Israel” #Israelflagemoji

It’s gross. I have social groups (not friends even but other social settings) where my best bet is to hope the topic doesn’t come up or change the subject.

A local baker that I like posted the "I stand with Israel" screed and thats when I knew things were deeply fucked