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Aminitas Muscaria are an edible mushroom. Change my mind. (hexbear.net)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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But they're poisonous! You say. And that's true, you absolutely should not eat raw amanitas. But you know what other mushrooms you shouldn't eat raw? All of them! Chitin is indigestible!

"Well, sure, but a raw porcini won't kill me!" That's true, but you know what will? A Morel! (If you're small). At the very least they'll make you as sick as an amanita. And you know what people do with Morels? They eat them! They're a prize edible!

"Okay, but people eat morrells but they don't eat Amanitas" okay. Well, take off your fucking anglocentrism glasses because they've been eating amanitas in India and Japan since before your country even existed.

So listen up, slice and boil your amanitas in gallons of water, and I mean gallons. Strain and rinse. Boil, strain and rinse again. Guess what you've got? A soft, buttery, delicious mushroom. Pour some garlic butter on it, or do it authentic and put it into miso soup as a nice earthy addition.

It's an edible. Change my mind.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

pour butter on mushroom

taste becomes buttery

turtle-pogger

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Listen fucke r

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Also, Morrell sounds like an extremely white surname, I'm gonna use it in stuff

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Anything you have to boil for 60 minutes to make edible or filter through the kidneys of a reindeer and/or Laplander shaman is not a food item.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

cool-bean

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Soak 'em sprout 'em eat 'em. Boiling isn't a requirement

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And I definitely know folks who've eaten a little raw ; )

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Green beans straight off the vine are delicious and no one can make me steam them knifecat

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fuck youve reminded me of the fresh beans I had in the garden earlier this year. Now they are all dry and ready for storage. I'll never forgive you for reminding me how goooopod the fresh beans are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I feel like of all the things I've done that have won me eternal enmity this one's going to be the easiest to live with. Hope you get some big vines next season!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Don't worry I ate some beans and got over it. Really I'm just excited for next year it's true. They went crazy this year so next year hopefully even more beans. And corn. And tomatoes.etc

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can locally source the shaman

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I live in a shaman desert sadness

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

a gnome wrote this

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

every mushroom is viable furniture, in this thread i will

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Every mushroom is edible at least once

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

That was my first thought too!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Actually edible mushrooms are so easy to grow and find, why not just do that instead of risking this

Amanitas aren't the pit bulls of mushrooms, they are the hyenas of mushrooms

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Actually edible mushrooms

I'm not engaging with this anglocentrism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Amanitas aren't the pit bulls of mushrooms, they are the hyenas of mushrooms

Lmao

Let's compromise and say they're the wolf dogs of mushrooms?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you're speaking specifically of A. muscaria. Leaving out the species name and speaking broadly is dangerous and ignorant...change my mind. The death cap and the destroying angel are most definitely not edible. Educate yourself please!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You know I meant fly agaric, it's right there in the picture. Yeah, please don't eat destroying angels lmao

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can (and should) edit your post title, imo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Sure

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Gallons of water is too much water. Eat a mushroom that doesn't need that!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

just gonna leave this here

https://erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Amanitas_A_muscaria.shtml

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

DOSE: 30 g
If I ever did this mushroom again, I would probably take 10g, maybe 12g. This experience has caused me to realize the silliness of consuming a hallucinogen to escape me. I'm pretty convinced now that all I want to do is live a simple, quiet life of three meals per day with 8-10 hours of sleep, some regular exercise, plenty of action (on projects), and stronger focus at work. The fear I experienced and negative portions of the trip were unnecessary...

lmfao

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Will it still get you high if you boil them? I don't want to drink reindeer piss.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Boiling twice will remove the toxins. If you want intoxication, you need to consume them raw.

I don't fuck with Amanitas outside of sect. Caesareae, which are completely safe, delicious, and much easier to identify than those in other sections.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's safer to boil them in lemon juice and and water and then drink the juice. There's two compounds, both are delirients, but one is toxic. Boiling them in acid reduces the quantity of the toxic one (and in fact turns it into the non toxic one).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Not a deliriant, it's a weird gabaergic like Ambien

https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria Muscimol has an atypical mechanism of action. Unlike classical psychedelics (which are 5-HT2A agonists) and classical dissociatives (which are NMDA receptor antagonists), muscimol is a potent GABAA agonist, meaning it activates the receptor for GABA, the brain's principle inhibitory neurotransmitter. As an agonist, muscimol binds to the same site on the GABAA receptor as GABA itself. This is unlike benzodiazepines and barbiturates, which bind to different allosteric sites on the GABAA receptor.

Muscimol has also been shown to be a partial agonist at the GABAA-ρ receptor, which may contribute to its psychoactive effects. Activation of α1 subunit GABA receptors is responsible for the hallucinogenic effects of certain GABAergic compounds such as z-drugs, including zolpidem, and muscimol.[7]

The effects of isolated muscimol begin approximately one hour after consumption, peaking at 3 hours and lasting a total of 10-24 hours.[8]

Ibotenic acid has been shown to be a potent NMDA agonist as well as a powerful agonist at the group I and group II metabotropic glutamate receptors. Due to in vivo decarboxylation, ibotenic acid is metabolized to muscimol and thus has many similar pharmacological characteristics

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Also if you were ever a heavy ambien user, Amanitas don't do shit. Even the tolerance is related.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cool. I wanna see you eat it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I have! I don't like mushrooms very much and it's your average mushroom.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm amazed at how the most mushrooms are actually edible, there are just a few that will definitely kill you

I fucking love mushrooms so much, coolest lifeforms on the planet by far🍄

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Me too for the psilocybin

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

That's the cosmic cherry on the cake

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So basically they're edible like how fugu is edible in that you need to prepare them in a very specific way without making a mistake otherwise you're dead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

They won't kill you unless you're pretty small and you don't cook them at all and it's hard to mess up boiling something. If you boiled them in too little water or didn't rinse them or something you'd probably just robo trip a little.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

might as well overdose on benadryl instead for your trip to hell

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Benedryl and amantias aren't comparable. Amantias are far closer to Ambien.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The forbidden one way shroom trip

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They're not even lethal unprocessed unless you're tiny