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[–] [email protected] 70 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago

ayyyy im absolving da sins of humanity ova heaaa

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

jews were invented in the 19th century by racist political cartoonists

[–] [email protected] 56 points 10 months ago (1 children)

who cares. us REAL adults are asking the REAL questions. like what hogwarts house did jesus belong to?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (2 children)

NGL the tweetback saying he was Ukrainian is pretty funny even if it’s a NATO kool-aid drinking account.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've seen ukraninan nationalists who unironically believe this and it is really funny

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What, they think ancient Stone Age Ukrainians came down and settled the Levantine thousands of years ago?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't know the specifics, but there are ukraninan nationalists who think that ukraine is the origin of all culture and civilization

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

the absolute funniest ones are always the foreigners who seemingly pick a country at random and join these weirdo movements of theirs.

there's an italian linguistics professor who insists hungarian is etruscan, which lines up super well with some strains of our weirdos.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s, so inaccurate it’s almost impressive

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

there is a lot of fascinating nationalist crankery in eastern europe. Another one(and my personal favourite) is fomenko's new chronology

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

that's normal for europeans though. there's always a fringe in every european country that thinks jesus was from that country.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You're right but I've seen a huge rise of this in ukraine since 2014

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Jesus is Brazilian and I won't accept it any other way

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Jesus was clearly American, SIR

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No concept of "nationality" then. He was a Jew born in the lands of Palestine which was split up into I think 3 kingdoms at the time administered by different Romans. That's it.

The modern concept of nationhood did not exist and borders weren't solid lines either.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Technically one was administered by a Jewish puppet king, but Jesus didn't live there (except possibly for his birth but being born in Bethlehem is not consistent in the gospels)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

but being born in Bethlehem is not consistent in the gospels

This sounds interesting, I haven't heard it before or if I have I forgot about it. What are the differences?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

So Mark and John don't really deal with the Nativity, and seem to assume Jesus had always lived in Nazareth.

Matthew thinks Joseph lived in Bethlehem, had to flee from Herod to Egypt, and came back to live in Nazereth.

Luke squares the circle by saying Joseph lived in Nazareth but had to travel to Bethlehem for a census, after which they just went home

On balance I'd say this means there is an early tradition of a Bethlehem nativity and Luke and Matthew obtained that from different sources. But then Mark is the earliest gospel and while John probably wasnt written by John the writers have a more direct apostolic connection.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Little known fact: Jesus Christ was a signatory on the Treaty of Westphalia which established the modern western concept of nationhood. Incidentally, he is legally Hamburgian.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Hamburger Jesus grilled for your sins grillman

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Free Imperial Jesus

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The only right answer is:

Jesus Christ lived in Palestine among the Jewish community of the country.

If you can guess who said this and when, I'll reply with a bunch of weird hexbear emotes.

Also the complete lack of theological knowledge in that twitter thread is embarrassing, bible quotes and all. Do they even know why the Jews rejected Jesus Christ as the Messiah and why he was no longer "King of the Jews" after his resurrection? Have any of these people actually read the Bible outside of the 5 sentences their pastor chooses to focus on every Sunday?

The reason why Jews reject Jesus Christ is quite simple. They believe that when the Messiah comes, he will organize His Kingdom on the earth, eternity will begin and time will end. Jews do not believe that people can bring about this just world before the end of time. However, the Messiah has not yet come, so we are still awaiting the end of time from a Jewish perspective.

However, from a Christian perspective, the message of Christ through his death and resurrection is quite clear, and a radical break from Judaism: the Kingdom of God is not on this earth and never will be. The reason the Son of God was defeated on the Earth and crucified, then resurrected to absolve humanity of their sins, is obviously because it was never the intention of the Christian God to establish His Kingdom on this Earth. Thus from a Jewish perspective, Jesus Christ is not the Messiah and the Jews are right not to recognize Him as such. Jesus can no longer be "King of The Jews" as there has been a radical departure from the Jewish theology. He no longer fulfills their criteria for being the Messiah.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

the Kingdom of God is not on this earth and never will be. The reason the Son of God was defeated on the Earth and crucified, then resurrected to absolve humanity of their sins, is obviously because it was never the intention of the Christian God to establish His Kingdom on this Earth

At least as it's portrayed in the gospels, Jesus very clearly was establishing the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth. That's one of Matthew's central theses: the kingdom of heaven has drawn near (Matt 4:17), we are to pray as Jesus did that God's will be done on earth as in heaven, and Jesus' return will see the fulfillment of the kingdom on earth.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

Serb. Next question.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

https://www.bethlehem-city.org/en/history-of-bethlehem

A decree of Caesar Augustus, ordering the taking of a census in all the provinces of the Roman Empire, brought Mary and Joseph to Bethlehem, thus fulfilling the prophecy of Micah, spoken 750 years before: "And thou, Bethlehem Ephrata, art a little one among the thousands of Juda: out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be the ruler of his people"(Mikha 5:2). When Jesus was born in Bethlehem,  Herod the Great was a vassal of Rome and in 6 AD Palestine was incorporated in the imperial province of Syria.

A Jewish Syrian from Palestine in the Empire of Rome. assad-pogger

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

He was obviously a white American.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

“Not Palestinian” repeatedly stated blissfully unaware his closest living relatives, most genetically similar extant humans, are most likely Palestinians, Lebanese, and some Syrians with some more distantly related folk who took a detour via Europe.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

"No you don't understand, Jesus was a super tall white dude with long hair and a beard! That's how he looks like in all the artwork and depictions at the church!"

We've got the American Jesus everybody, bolstering national faith!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Jesus was friends with this guy

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lmao how have I never seen this before.

Could you imagine if another religion became the dominant force in the west? Imagine white depictions of other deities...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

this is why depictions of the prophet Muhammad aren't allowed.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Ever since I read about that hideous Touchdown Jesus statue burning down, that's what I picture every time I hear this song. You could literally see him on the interstate. It's too perfect.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

TFW you send a clear sign that your followers are on the wrong path when you strike their statue with lightning, and, instead of changing their carnal ways, they just rebuild the statue.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

PETA offered funding through an "anonymous Christian donor" to help rebuild the statue if allowed to promote veganism at the church.

lmao, PETA is wild but every now and then they do something genuinely cool and funny like this.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

It was destroyed by a lightning strike and subsequent fire

What the fuck more do you need, guys? God says it sucks

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

nah man. Jesus' closest living relative is Blake from Brooklyn settler

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

Everyone knows that Jesus founded America in the year 1200 BC

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Jesus was a member of the Rhythm Nation.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck if I know. Chaldea-Frisian?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

meme answer: he was a roman subject

serious answer: nationality is a modern invention and makes no sense when talking about 1st century CE Judaea

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Who was the king at the time? It's not Herodotus or Hasmodean, but it's definitely an H bc he tried to spawn camp Josh. i remember that part.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Zeta Reticuli posad

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Jesus was Pleiadian

A traveler from the stars sent to teach us how to make meals from bread and fish

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago
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