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they've already weathered a decade of CIA drone strikes and Saudi air strikes. did anyone believe these recent strikes were anything but performative actions by a humiliated US administration?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/us/politics/houthis-yemen-us-airstrikes.html

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Here's a pro tip: when a US media outlet says "This action did have an effect, but it achieved considerably less than expected," this is code for "It achieved fucking nothing. Actually, it probably weakened us more than it weakened them."

Prime example is all the articles over the last couple years talking about how sanctions on Russia are definitely doing something! They're not working as well as we want, but they are working! Meanwhile, Russia is essentially the best performing major economy in the European region, is distinctly not in a recession unlike, say, Germany, had its oil sold significantly above the oil price cap for half of 2023 (with a recent fall to "just" the price cap of $60 per barrel), with manufacturing and services PMIs doing great, record low unemployment (...well, you know what I mean...), and basically everybody who isn't a bot on Reddit is admitting is winning the war in Ukraine despite the combined military deliveries of dozens of countries throughout NATO.

Another example is of sanctions on China, perhaps best summed up by this:

(from January 2024 in CGTN)

Ah, well, nevertheless.

Simply put, if I didn't want Ansarallah in Yemen to become a battle-hardened, militant force in the region which has found ways to mitigate the impacts of western bombing campaigns, and is totally unwilling to even briefly consider US demands to stop blockading the Red Sea, I would have simply not fucking bombed them and killed hundreds of thousands of civilians for nine fucking years. Actions have consequences.

Propaganda cannot feed an army. It cannot fuel a battleship. It cannot be fired out of a missile launcher. But other than magically-conjured trillions of dollars, it's about the only thing that America can still make.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Understanding the nature of mass propaganda makes you realize that the average journalist is 90% similar to your average Facebook lib regurgitating what they hear without questioning...just with primary sources instead of secondary. Unlike Trump, the natsec apparatus is ✨ professional ✨ with their communications, therefore completely trustworthy to libs...so they regurgitate without question.

Anyone demonstrating an understanding of systemic/structural problems is a threat to capital, so capitalist-owned outlets simply never give them microphone/pen, guaranteeing natsec ghouls can pass their narratives to an amplification machine that gives the authority of a perceived unanimity by "independent" non-government institutions.

I'm sure many natsec fucksticks are aware of this phenomenon and exploit it feeding journalists whatever info is most likely to result in consent for whatever they want to do. Press statements from these officials should be looked at as their wishlist for public opinion rather than an informed scoop.

News reporting any intervention as ineffective won't be passed by an "official" source, thus never getting printed. Only reason to state as much to the press is if you need public support for new escalation. Hence why all these libs still think Ukraine is winning or only isn't because we haven't sent them enough weapons systems...last thing they heard is that Ukraine is one ~~javelin~~ ~~Panzer~~ F16 away from winning or China is one sanction away from their ~~economy~~ semiconductor industry collapsing.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Anyone who takes the new york times seriously probably still believes that ukraine is winning, china is collapsing, there is no genocide in the levant etc so yes

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It will forever be "Judith Miller's New York Times" to me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Scrying with an orb will get you more reliable information and news than the nyt

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Oh yeah? America is going to kick Yemen's ass just like it did to Russia and Hamas, you loony tankies will see.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Houthis specifically have been living under airstrikes, but also a common theme among Iranian backed groups is that the tactics and weapons provided are specifically designed against symmetric warfare with America and American proxies. Of course they'd considered airstrikes.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"we're going to have to spend more of your money on explosives instead of housing and healthcare :)"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Unlike healthcare & housing, keeping the treat machine flowing keeps surplus value flowing in the direction of capitalists. A healthy, housed populace only means reduced leverage over the generators of surplus value. If other countries were allowed to develop peacefully, there'd be no cheap treats to distract from the piss poor healthcare & housing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

"Oh yeah? Well, the Houthis are gonna find the fuck out why we don't have free healthcare! It's because we need to spend millions of dollars per missile, and that missile doesn't even do what it's meant to do most of the time, and is vulnerable to missiles/drones that are either too good (hypersonic), or not good individually but can be made in the thousands, which is what all our enemies use! Take that, terrorists!"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

I've seen footage, the US didn't have ANY🔻 in the video. How are you expected to hit any targets without a red triangle?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I mean....it gave the government an excuse to finally cut Ukraine loose without appearing to our client states as though we're unreliable allies (for whom only the delusional would trust).

And very few are making that connection too, that the reason we've decided to abandon Ukraine in their crusade to ethnically cleanse the Donbas being that we're trying to protect Israel while they engage in their own struggle to ethnically cleanse Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

What does anyone expect in us leadership. They've spent a decade making these people hate them and be good at fighting and they think a measly airstrike will do anything? To these people? Saudi Arabia was doing a well publicized genocide to them until like a couple months ago. The goddamn rand corporation agreed that you can't beat them. It's insanely sadistic for Biden to do airstrikes. :amerikkka:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I mean they openly said they bombed a bunch of civilian infrastructure and places from where Houthis launched drones previously, so those were as usual just a terror strikes intended as a show for bootlickers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

"Identifying targets proved to be a challenge"

AKA

"We basically just bombed a bunch of civilian centers and hoped that would stop them, we didn't want to go near their military bases because we could've been shot down if we tried that."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

You are powerless here.