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[โ€“] [email protected] 83 points 2 months ago (12 children)

what are they even turning fascist for? it's not like there's communists anywhere near europe right now, are we just going to start doing pogroms against immigrants now? fucking worthless "continent" and i use that very loosely

[โ€“] [email protected] 86 points 2 months ago (2 children)

what are they even turning fascist for?

The usual reason: "things are bad? It isn't our fault, it's the fault of the marginalized out-group! Destroy them!" capitalist-laugh

[โ€“] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While the Russia-Ukraine war made things worse for Germans, far right has been on the ascend for a while and things weren't even that bad in Germany! Like lots of issues with the German center-right, but they were doing a good job of extracting wealth from the rest of the EU.

[โ€“] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The previous nazi surge rode on post WW1 anguish, grief, and poverty. What the fuck is the excuse now?

[โ€“] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Anxiety and rage about incipient climate collapse probably, coupled with the universal alienation that they especially have no vocabulary to grapple with

[โ€“] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If only there had been some German philosopher they could read to inform them about capitalist alienation. Ah well

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Anxiety and rage about incipient climate collapse probably

I can believe that, particularly the redirected rage where they'd rather punch down on climate refugees than punch up toward the planet burners themselves.

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Last time they took it out on mostly white minorities. The excuses donโ€™t even have to be air tight

[โ€“] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago

Love to be in danger eventually by being a marginalized out-group popuko-finger

[โ€“] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago

Fascism doesn't require the threat of communism to exist, it simply requires capitalism to start showing signs of failure and then those who profit circle the wagons around their hoarded wealth and you're gonna get a fascism out of that if people don't stomp it down and replace capitalism so it can't happen again. They're the immune response of capitalism. The white power blood cells if you will.

[โ€“] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Europeans have been shitting their pants about Muslims for decades now

[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

someone in Germany stubs their toe

the polls: i-am-adolf-hitler

[โ€“] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago

the amount of concentrated hitler-detector that stem from a single german are enough to put the particle accelerator to shame

[โ€“] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i dont think fascism requires the presence of communism to show up. Neoliberalism is destroying everything, the anger and energy of the masses has to be directed somewhere and there are only a few possible ways for it to go. Fascism is the least bad for the bourgeoisie.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah and it is much easier (I.e. less pushback) to direct that towards the vulnerable and under privileged than those with power, guns, and money. One of those could get you killed.

[โ€“] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

I think you're landing on why allusions to historical fascism or the interwar period are kind of a limiting framework to understanding these parties

[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Europe has been steadily losing its neocolonial grip on the Global South, so it is inevitable they turn to fascism in hopes of reasserting their position as colonial metropoly.

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Does fascism really need an actual communist enemy now that they're all convinced that even the blandest liberals are literally Mao reborn though?

I'm thinking no. And that's kinda scary.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Because they think muslims are a subhuman horde destroying Westernโ„ข civilization, and it's all orchestrated by the Wokeยฉยฎโ„ข (usually they mean jewish communists controlling society secretly)

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Germanic brain pan is incapable of complex thought and so turns to simplistic tribalism instead of civilization

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Few Germanic brainpans developed scientific socialism so hold your horses there.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

It's a peninsula at best