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It's incredible just how fearful US cops are. The training must be pure psychological torture.
It's a thousand hours of classes where people tell you about all the ways you can be stabbed and how every single person you see is a threat and how you have to have a "warrior mindset". They get it drilled into their head that they're an occupying force in hostile territory, in part because all of the instructors are former occupiers of Afghanistan, Iraq etc. edit: and of course Israeli occupiers of Palestine.
Sir, sir I have tactically ascertained that you appear to be engulfed by a hot substance that may be fire, SIR
MAY I HELP YOU SIR i scream at the burning meat, my finger quivering on the trigger
Surprised they didn't try to shoot him to put out the flames, average thumb cop intelligence level
Yeah I just watched the video and I just gotta say massive fuck you to all the people who shit on this dude or just write him off as "a troop." He opens up the video and says he's about to engage in "an extreme act of protest" but "compared to what people in Palestine have been experiencing at the hands of their colonizers, it's not extreme at all" and then lights himself on fucking fire.
If you watch that and don't have even the slightest bit of empathy or think that he is not in any way a comrade, there is something wrong with you
Yeah he shouldn't have joined the military, yeah he shouldn't have killed himself, but jesus fucking christ people that just makes it more tragic.
all the news articles articles aren't admitting that he was protesting the genocide in gaza.
One I read quickly mentioned him then pivoted to talking about environmentalist protesters who have self immolated in the past for over half the article. Others mention no motive at all and are just a couple sentences. One said "it's unclear if this is related to Israel's military action in Gaza".
Goddamn I hate "journalists". Lying hacks who take clear and easy to understand events and twist them into nothingness
Holy fuck, amerikkkan journalism is pure fucking propaganda, usa today's article says "Local and Federal officials have declined to say whether this was a form of protest"
It's not even the first one. This is the second, recent, self immolation outside an Israeli embassy in the US
Nah he lit himself on fire because he was feeling cold
The balls of u$a propaganda...
Just heard NPR report this as "His reason for doing so is still unknown." How? He said why he was doing it!
He literally screamed his reasons while he was burning, filthy lying libs, not an ounce of shame in them
https://www.npr.org/2024/02/25/1233810136/fire-man-israeli-embassy-washington
A man set himself on fire outside Israeli Embassy in D.C.
A man is in critical condition after setting himself on fire in front of the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C., on Sunday afternoon, according to multiple law enforcement agencies.
The Air Force said the man was an active duty airman.
The U.S. Secret Service said it was responding to reports of an individual experiencing a possible medical or mental health emergency. Local police arrived around 1 p.m. ET.
The fire has since been extinguished. The Israeli Embassy in D.C. said none of its staff were injured.
Vito Maggiolo, a spokesperson for D.C. Fire and EMS, said the man has been transported to the hospital, where he has "critical life threatening injuries."
As of Sunday evening, NPR was not able to independently verify the man's identity or motives.
Andrew Leyden, a freelance journalist based in D.C., told NPR he saw burn marks near the Israeli Embassy's lawn, where the embassy had placed flags to represent the hostages taken by Hamas on Oct. 7.
Lynn Sweet, the Washington bureau chief at the Chicago Sun-Times, wrote on X that there was a growing police presence outside the Israeli Embassy earlier in the afternoon, including local law enforcement searching a vehicle out of "precaution."
Posted at 6:53 PM, well after the details were available
As of Sunday evening, NPR was not able to independently verify the man's identity or motives.
look we need atleast 12 different independent sources to prove to us that what he was saying was actually what he meant to say
They are going to weaponize the traumatic footage of being burned alive to pull some bullshit, "the footage is extremely disturbing, so for the viewers' mental wellbeing, we've faithfully transcribed this mentally disturbed man's final words." The White House transcripts cover up Biden's brain turning into soup all the fucking time, and they'll probably do it here too if they can't get away with simply ignoring it.
Someone self-immolated in front of the Israeli consulate in Atlanta a few months back too: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/01/protester-palestine-self-immolate-atlanta-israel-consulate
90% of the people in this thread are contrarian who just want to smugly laugh to themselves about how this does nothing or he deserves it for being a troop. Like idk how anyone can see this and not just feel a sense of sadness that not only did someone die in such an excruciating way but for absolutely nothing and that nothing will change or even remember him, especially since seemingly half the people who'll even remember this in a week's time are saying he's destined for hell because he didn't hijack a Boeing or something and do 9/12.
It's obviously sad and very disturbing, and should be the kind of thing that wakes people up. Unfortunately, the US media is very careful on downplaying/misreporting self-immolations, even though in theory it's the type of macabre story that they'd capitalize on.
Soon from the US media: "We need to ban all images from Gaza so young people don't hurt themselves!"
Only good AmeriKKKan soldier.
But seriously this is based AF. No matter his faith, may Allah reward his compassion and bravery in the afterlife
This won't make any headlines. A monk in Tibet? Plastered everywhere. People throwing paint or soup or whatever on art? Everywhere, drives the chuds rage. But they'll hardly mention this.
Any journalist that does not publish this or completly ignore his reason is lowest propaganda creator alive. I agree that media would have gone mad with this if this was 50 years ago in Vietnam. Media became much more state controlled since. Remembering you is the least I could do noble soldier
He may have been a troop, and a single death is nothing compared to what Israel is doing to the Palestinians, and maybe his action didn't achieve anything, but we are still talking about a human life of someone who got where they are partially due to the material reality they grew up in, and of someone who in the end saw the wrongness in it all. I thus am a bit alarmed that some of the comments' first reaction on here is to insult him.
Doing something like that's no small commitment, that's for sure.
Is it just me or has self immolation gotten very frequent in the US? There was that scientist in D.C. protesting climate change, then another person in Atlanta protesting Israel.
I salute this man. The Empire will of course play down his courageous act and bury it as soon as possible, but we will remember. He threw his life away to protest for Palestine.
That poor bastard. I don't know if he was a comrade or simply someone who broke when confronted by US actions. But this is the least useful way to Martyr yourself, and Martyrdom is the least useful way of resistance.
Regardless, since he is a martyr, may he rest with those of Haymarket.
self immolation is a shit way to go and while efficacy of action is probably not the priority of someone committing suicide, i'm not aware of individual actions like this ever amounting to much.
It would have been significantly more effective for him to defect and go help Palestinians resist the IOF. Especially since he already had military knowledge.
Goddamn.
I'm not gonna shit on this guy because I think his heart was very obviously in the right place, but I have to agree with others here in that this is a terrible waste of a life, particularly a life belonging to the one US troop willing to die fighting the Palestinian genocide.
Unfortunately, I doubt he was capable of doing much better because of how massively alienated he must've been. He almost certainly lacked anything resembling a coherent set of politics, and he almost certainly lacked like minded comrades to set him on the right path. Considering he was active duty, I have no doubt he could have found a way to frag some officers, but he probably thought violence would be counter productive. There's a reason why Americans grow up learning about a wildly sanitized version of MLK Jr. and absolutely nothing about the Black Panthers.
So in the end, he spent his last moments screaming in agony for nothing, not understanding that the media was going to effortlessly sweep this under the rug just like it did the last few self immolations. This is so fucking sad, and it's why we need to organize to capture and productively redirect people like this as they radicalize. Rest in peace.
I don’t agree with his choice but
What an incredibly horrible cry of frustration and rage at being part of something monstrous that you know you can't stop.