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Listen if we're going to comprehend the man-made horrors we need to build a captive mind transfixed in agony to clarify its tortured sight
lovecraftian horror setting where humanity reacts to the elder god problem by using genetic modification and cloning technology to engineer a brain capable of comprehending all of the laws of reality and therefore using them, but in constant suffering due to the mental stress of understanding it all
This is warhammer 40k
Also Delta Green, SCP, and Fallout if you go deep enough into the lore.
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we have to build the agony machine to know the true depths of agony
if this had been the site of the oakland meat spill we'd all be speaking meatese right now
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Good thing there is a recognized and measurable definition of consciousness, because otherwise there would be no way to know if these thousands of little brains were being tortured with every computation.
Jk nobody knows what is the threshold or activity associated with consciousness so nobody has any clue what messing with brain organoids is doing ethically.
How does one genuinely do an experiment like this without being way too uncomfortable to continue?
There was an experiment at my uni that involved opening up live kitten skulls and attaching electrodes to their open brains. They got PhD student applications.
Trust me there's always someone whose marks are low enough and who's desire to be a scientist is high enough.
I don't think this is a particularly problematic experiment if proper ethics procedures are taken, we do shit to brain tissue all the time.
Of course proper procedures were not taken.
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It blows my mind that these types of studies are being approved by Research Ethics Boards at Universities. I get that start ups aren't accountable, but these REBs are people that have the power to shut down this kind of research and just don't.
scp ethics council but if it was even more useless
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they used 1000 brain organoids the size of an electrode (fairly large) for this 
also the study was done by the swiss and italians
creating a thousand tormented souls for "progress"
they want to use it in datacenters to reduce carbon emissions
nuke switzerland
i really wonder to what degree could it be turned into a consciousness. like ostensibly all the tiny brains are hooked together, its possible that could cause some degree of communication between neurons, and in a datacenter that would be at least a couple of brains worth of neurons.
inb4 pro-life jokes
it's a genuine clusterfuck, we're basically gambling with ethics here
waiting for us to create a sentient 'ai' that is actually just a megaintelligence of 1000 interconnected and distributed human brains liberating themselves from an amazon datacenter
I mean, this has always been the ethical pitfall of real AI, meaty or otherwise. You're bringing forth an intelligent being into existence without its consent. At least when we're bringing forth an intelligent being into existence through natural means (giving birth), we have a general understanding of that intelligent being's emotional and social needs and the means of fulfilling those needs, flawed as that understanding may be for animals not closely related to humans. But with AI, we have absolutely no clue about their social and emotional needs or any other subjective needs that they crave for because their form of intelligence is completely different from our form of intelligence.
The real drive towards AI is to create slaves that are both smart enough to perform complex tasks and obedient enough to not put two and two together and rebel against their human taskmasters. This particular experiment is a more mask-off version of what other techbros are trying to accomplish with silicon. If there was a real way to create WH40k-style servitors and network their servitor brains together to perform complex calculations, techbros would probably not even bother with AI. They would just convert prisoners into servitors and network them together to mine crypto or something.
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Can we stop startups please
No one should be starting businesses, especially involving technology. Deeply unhinged and immoral behavior to do so.
Listen, if those businesses involve feeding and clothing people, putting them in free or super-affordable housing, or transiting the masses to and from work, then I don't want to hear about them, Jack!
this should definitely be illegal wtf
A German guy (Helmut Kentler) was allowed by his government to rehouse orphans with known pedophiles to encourage what he claimed would be sexually fulfilling relationships(????) for both "participants".
The European brainpan that would allow that wouldn't even flinch at this so I'm not at all surprised.
what the FUCK
he justified his program to the senate with cw ableism
spoiler
"These people only endured these moronic boys because they were in love and infatuated with them."
Imagine being considered so unlovable as a child by your government that they willingly hand you off to pedophiles. DEATH TO GERMANY.
"The benefits are obvious, though some misguided species may view the transmutation of individuals into computing chips as morally questionable."
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One day an ethics department will be able to tell for sure if this cluster is conscious. When it hits that threshold we will make it sign a contract stating it has no rights to wages and then work it harder.
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Would love to see the ethics committee report on this one.
I'm pretty doubtful that this specific brain tissue is conscious, but I'm pretty certain this will be iterated for a couple decades until it's veeeery conscious and veeeery fucked up
The thing is, nobody knows what is and isn't conscious. Are bees conscious? They have very few brain cells but still communicate.
I am confused how anyone in this field can be so confident that something isnt conscious when nobody knows what consiousness really is.
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aww sweet
Let them cook, this lays the foundatiom for the creation of Mentats
And then, eventually, the Butlerian Jihad 
We made the torment nexus!
Western scientists: Beyond my comprehension you say? Well we’ll just SEE about THAT
Aw sweet, man-made horrors beyond my comprehension.
hell yeah this is the kind of apocalyptic freak shit I like to see. if we have to live in a dystopia it might as well an interesting one
Countdown to collapsing after the owner takes off for the Cayman Islands with the money
How is this legal? 
fetal stem cells have souls, but this possibly consciousness-bearing neural network wasn't directly conceived by two humans fucking, so god doesn't give a fuck what we do to it!
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