this post was submitted on 29 Oct 2024
217 points (95.4% liked)

politics

19107 readers
2804 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 47 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 152 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

presidential endorsements create the "perception of bias"

You know what else creates a perception of bias? Meeting with Trump right before withholding the Harris endorsement.

Also... bullshit... it's amazing how many people just get their marching instructions from their preferred newspaper. They don't even pay attention. They will literally tell canvassers that they will decide who they are voting for based on what the paper says.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They don’t even pay attention. They will literally tell canvassers that they will decide who they are voting for based on what the paper says.

I had a conversation with my dad recently about it. he's been a life long republican. In any case I had to remind him that I told him in 2016 that Trump was quoting hitler almost-verbatim. The only difference was that a) it was a more or less direct translation into english, and b) 'jews' were exchanged for 'muslims'.

he also kept demanding sources and I'm like 'the source is trump speaking. trump said that himself. this is a direct quote'. (for example the 'Dictator on day one' comment.) same goes for political violence. same goes for everything in the 2025;

like fucking hell, it's exhausting. I tossed in the source on Fox being a right-wing propaganda rag for good measure.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

When a conservative asks you for sources, they do so in bad faith. They don't care about engaging with reality. It's a deflection tactic.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yup. That’s exactly why he’s voting for Harris this time around. All those bad faith arguments.

No, but it took a while to get him off Fox News. He didn’t vote in the 2020 presidential election either (or maybe he voted for some other republican jackass. I forget.)

He grew up thoroughly republican. It’s taken a while to break the brainwashing, but it can be done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They will never even look at the source. It goes beyond simple lack of curiosity, their brain has created a sort of defense mechanism that will prevent them from ever actually comprehending that they could be wrong about something. So they will do everything to avoid being in a situation that could lead to them learning something new.

Because nothing is more important than never being wrong about anything, ever.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

"if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"

-Rush

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

The Washington Post already carries a perception of bias for the Republican party, a Harris endorsement would have potentially balanced that somewhat.

This statement doesn't even stand up to the flimsiest scrutiny

[–] [email protected] 84 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Now more than ever the world needs a credible, trusted, independent voice...

I’m not sure he understands the meaning of “independent”.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

But he's nailed "voice" at least though, right?

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So didn't the crucial reporting of Woodward and Bernstein exposing the Watergate scandal on the pages of the Washington Post show bias against Nixon, Jeff? Would you have stopped that reporting had you owned the paper in 1972?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Then wait until a non-election year to do it

Democracy dies in cowardice

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago

WaPo endorsed other candidates for office in this very election cycle. "All of a sudden" when the editorial desk wants to endorse Harris, it's "OOOHHHHHHH NOOOOOOO WE HAVE TO BE INDEPENDENT!"

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck you, Jeff.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago

Bezos is a fascist

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck off Nazi, never another penny

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

"Democracy died in broad daylight"

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

If there are two parties, and one says it's raining, and the other says it isn't, it's not the news media's job to give an unbiased report on the debate, it's their job to look out the fucking window and say whether or not it's raining.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tax your rich assholes America.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Been trying to I promise! Trouble is, the rich assholes took over the asylum

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

"Democracy dies with billionaires."

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

God he is such a fucking tool, and he doesn’t even realize it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure he realizes it. What he doesn't want is for everyone else to realize it too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Guy has totally bought his own press.. wait, what

Jokes aside-- Fuck Bezos. I hope him and Musk get their just desserts.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Huh. Weird. Bezos’s face is different from how it used to be. He’s definitely gotten gender affirming surgery (testosterone or some cheek squaring plastic surgery)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

He's going full lex Luther

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

His wife already looks like a Barbie doll.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

World's second most punchable face.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I would say third, after Donald and musk

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Donnie's got Il Duce face, which means it's more kickable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It would similarly look better upside down

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ajit Pai will always have the worlds most punchable face.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Smells like an anti-editorial absolutist. Wow so objective. Much truth.

Wtf is wrong with being biased against out and proud fascists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's not even bias... My hatred for fascists is well-founded, thank you very much

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Lol. It wasn't the "Washington Post" who decided that. It was the owner.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"Dave Limp, the chief executive of one of my companies, Blue Origin, met with former president Donald Trump on the day of our announcement," Bezos wrote. "I sighed when I found out, because I knew it would provide ammunition to those who would like to frame this as anything other than a principled decision. But the fact is, I didn’t know about the meeting beforehand. Even Limp didn’t know about it in advance; the meeting was scheduled quickly that morning. There is no connection between it and our decision on presidential endorsements, and any suggestion otherwise is false."

"Presidential endorsements do nothing to tip the scales of an election. No undecided voters in Pennsylvania are going to say, 'I’m going with Newspaper A’s endorsement.' None. What presidential endorsements actually do is create a perception of bias. A perception of non-independence. Ending them is a principled decision, and it’s the right one," Bezos wrote

"Who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Dear God, his transformation into Dr Evil is nearly complete!

"I'll give you an endorsement for Harris... For ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS!! Muahahaha!!!"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

how exactly is it that any kind of endorsement creates a “perception of bias”? is he trying to argue that all opinions are biased? and if so, why doesn’t he say anything to support that claim?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Guys, relax, what I did was totally the right thing to do, The New York Times is about to post 5 articles about it.... or else.

  • Papa Money
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I would read what he wrote, but I already canceled my subscription. Alas.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The number of subscriptions has gone down by 10% already. That's what happens when billionaires interfere with media, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

People should hit him where it hurts, Amazon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

If literally nobody gives a shit about the endorsement then blocking it is a pointless gesture and not going to increase credibility with anyone by his own admission, Is what I would say if it wasn't obviously another billionaire oligarch putting his finger on the scale of democracy then saying it isn't or it's justified.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Is this Streisand effect going on? By not endorsing they got more people engaged then if they had?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago

NBC News - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)Information for NBC News:

Wiki: reliable - There is consensus that NBC News is generally reliable for news. See also: MSNBC


MBFC: Left-Center - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High - United States of America


Search topics on Ground.Newshttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jeff-bezos-defends-washington-post-endorsement-decision-rcna177742
Media Bias Fact Check | bot support