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Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can't remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you're on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won't bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you're interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I'll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I'm going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I'm going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the "Lhamana" and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a "middle" as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won't go in detail here because I don't feel qualified to summarize it, but it's in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don't refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn't an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There's probably some cultural significance to this, but I'm not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women's work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

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[โ€“] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Gender research findings go here

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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I think we should make a tracha-lite (tracha but less chaotic/probably with a spray bottle to keep users like me contained). There's been at least a few people (4~ come to mind) I've seen and talked to who said normal tracha can be overwhelming or intimidating.

I know we talked about that a bit in the tracha mods chat, but figure that tossing the idea here would probably also help it not be drowned out by other chats (might make a post or idk later as well, idk)

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Overwhelming is an understatement. Unless I pay attention to it constantly, I couldn't possibly hope to keep up with it. I actually had to disable notifications from element to my watch cause it was draining the battery.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 21 minutes ago

Yeah, my battery was dropping by the minute.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 9 minutes ago

I would like to express interest. I keep trying to look at tracha but it really is so overwhelming. I would love a sort of tracha-lite if it was manageable

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I actually have free time again, what a concept! So, I've returned to creating character portraits. I want to compare two I don't believe I've shown on here. The first uses the older software, and the second one the newer software. The second one also meets the 16-color requirement, while the first does not. There's also a pixel on each that needs fixing. Other than that, which one do you all think looks better?

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I like the right one better personally, also don't know if I ever said, good luck on the game making

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

I definitely like the one on the right better myself, it is my second take after all. Thanks for the good luck, I'm going to need it. I took one look at the game software, and it's going to be a lot of work and learning new things.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I spent years putting together my wardrobe. If I start hormones, are they still gonna fit??

Oh shit, this is bad! Will my new fleshy bits be contained??

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

You'll have time. The changes aren't instantaneous and take a good while. But, if all goes well, yes, you'll have to replace it eventually.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Bad news, they might not fit because good news your body is gonna change shape

I had to toss most of my old boy clothes (way too tight in the chest and ass now). I don't fit some of the clothes I got earlier in my transition as well :(

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

They weren't lying, this progesterone really do be making me eepy.

Also my hair is like, ridiculously soft suddenly. Like almost overnight, even my girlfriend noticed it. I'm definitely not imagining things and I haven't changed anything in my hair care. Idk where this came from but I'm very happy about it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

the surgeon I was going with backed out because he doesn't feel confident enough for my specific case yet. he said he would try to research and contact me again in a few weeks to see if he found any leads for where I go

cw: suicide, hopelessness, ventingI really want to kill myself. the drive is so real. I tried to tell him I accept that there's uncertainty on outcomes and complications and even having a phallus alone would help me so much, but that wasn't enough.

exhausting every way you can think of trying to convince someone to take a chance and pull you from the misery only for him to kindly and firmly refute each is difficult. feeling completely backed into a corner with nothing but acceptance that this grim era will continue without the hope I was holding onto, it really is difficult

I just want someone to help me

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Please don't give up. Keep looking. Even if it can't happen now, I'm sure someone will be able to help you.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Is there any chance of finding a different doctor? Preferably one that isn't a cis man, they seem to stand in the way of any trans healthcare you need to pursue. Luckily enough all the people I have worked with in gender care have been women, and they haven't been a roadblock to me in any way. We'll see what happens once I pursue bottom surgery though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

that's a good idea and I am going to try to look, though I'm feeling lost how to proceed and worn out. I'm afraid I'm about to get constant rejections now

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

Just focus on what you can do for now, and put everything else on the back-burner until you're ready to handle it <3

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

My doctor: get your cholesterol under control and then we can raise your dose

Okay but I'm too depressed to have be able to stick with a diet can we just try increasing the estrogen and manage everything from there?

I unilaterally decided to up my dose my just taking more. Only up to the minimum recommended dose for two weeks now I think. I haven't felt better in ages and finding the motivation to eat healthy, get exercise, and socialize, has never been greater. We really need to drill into the medical community how important HRT is and to get up to an effective dose asap. Maybe it's a placebo but it feels real and the effects are real so w/e.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

looking in the mirror and seeing a visibly fucked up clocky trans girl, which is fair because i am a visibly fucked up clocky trans girl

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

whats the gender neutral form of the word dude?

duden?

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

I believe that dude has evolved to take on a gender-neutral form, but I would rather just never be called any variation of dude when there's so many cuter things to call me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago

Bit idea: dismiss all non-queer media forever

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Wait days to get a call back about sperm banking in case I want to have kids in the future.

Get called back in the middle of the work day

Person on the phone who's supposed to be "courteous and confidential" asks me questions I can't answer without announcing to the office I'm getting my jizz froze and takes ages to switch over to yes/no

Get told they don't take insurance for this (no mention of that on the website)

dog-screm

I hate this shit. I hope my therapist can help me w/ resources. For anything medical I usually rely on my mom for help but that's a no go here as she doesn't even know I'm on HRT

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

I ended up not freezing any. It wasn't worth the cost vs starting hrt for me, at the time.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Is your therapist a social worker? I think Social workers can be good at helping get through that. Sadly starting hrt was delayed quite a while for me while I sorted out the conflicting info and poor communication between my urologist and the fertility clinic.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think so. She did give me resources but I hadn't wanted to act on them in case the one Planned Parenthood suggested worked out.

I went ahead and started HRT but I feel like it should still be okay for a little bit? I read it takes a couple months to make sperm so hopefully I've got some of the lil dudes left chilling in there

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Yes you should still have some for now, also you might just already be making non viable sperm for totally unrelated reasons, normally they check that and sound like they did.

Also please bear in mind, HRT is not birth control. There have been plenty of girls who got their boyfriends pregnant because both figured they were on HRT and not fertile. It can still happen.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I lifted arm-L madeline-smug arm-R am on drugs today so tbh why not. Long may it continue...

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I lifted today as well doggirl-sleep Mostly because exercising makes literally everything else in life a little less difficult. I lose all ability to focus on anything when I don't exercise regularly

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Really? Dang, which part of lifting makes focusing easier?

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's a combination of a couple different things. For once my body gets really restless if I'm sedentary, which makes it hard to sit down and focus on stuff. And the other reason is that lifting helps me sleep and eat a ton better.

I usually have super low appetite (maybe because i got so used to ignoring my hunger cues when i was depressed idk), but lifting makes me feel hunger "normally" and crave actual meals, which helps my brain work the way it shoulddoggirl-thumbsup

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

my body gets really restless if I'm sedentary, which makes it hard to sit down and focus on stuff

Is this why I've been unable to read since I got fired... catgirl-huh Oh no... I know about improving appetite though, that shit rules, fuck yeah.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe, that's how it works for me at least (unfair that I need to be physically active to nerd out properly tbh), but if that's the case for you it should get easier soon now that you're working out again doggirl-happy

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Nerd oppression by your own body!! catgirl-hiss I hope it should, but also my body is a fuckin shambles and ten reps per arm obliterates me. I have an extremely long way to go, if it's even physically possible for me to be in good shape anymore.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Ash getting zooted on creatine. I'm here for it. (For anyone watching don't overdo creatine, pretty sure it can damage your kidneys or liver)

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

NO STAHP! I NEED YOU TO HAVE HEALTHY ORGANS!

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My organs are probably rekt already soz berdly-smug

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

Damn I need to find another source

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

Hmmmmmm I'm soooo eepysleepy today~ (I was kept up till 7am by chronic pain but still woke up before noon) catgirl-flop

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